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Western Conference Power Rankings: Training Camp

1- Mavericks: Though the Mavs have lost J.J., and Chandler, they were able to trade (losing no players, and giving away pretty much nothing) for Odom, and also sign Vince Carter. The defending Champs look poised to defend their title, and barring they do not have any significant injuries this season with the compressed schedule, they will at least put together another strong run.

2- Thunder: This year the Thunder are older and wiser, but still young, explosive and exciting. they have a dynamic team, and arguably the best player in the NBA in Durrantula. There are perhaps two key questions this season that will determine how the season in OKC will go: The progression of Westbrook as a good Decision making PG and Does James Harden still continue to rise.

3-Grizzlies: Not only did they knock the Spurs out of the playoffs, but The Grizz took the Thunder to 7 games last season- Without their best player, Rudy Gay. Resigning Mark Gasol was a key move to their relevance as a legit contender. Lionel Hollins will have his hands full getting the team to mesh with Gay. (not too mention having a distraction like O.J. Mayo on the team.) look for the Grizz to make a strong push in the west.

4-Lakers: After Losing Odom to the Mavs for relatively nothing, the Lakers are as of right now not as good a team as they were last year. Kobe, Fisher, and Artest are a year older, Bynum will no doubt miss at least 15 to 20 games, and they are not that deep as far as the roster goes. The Lakers need a serious acquisition to become elite again. Dwight Howard seems unlikely at this point, and Chris Paul is not going to happen without Odom as piece to offer. It will be interesting to see if they can land anyone significant to placate Kobe and rejuvenate the Roster.

5-Spurs: Though the Tim Duncan era is coming to a close, the Spurs still have one more serious push left. The Contributions of Leonard and some of the other young guys will be needed if the spurs are to go deep, especially in such a compressed season.


6- Clippers:With the emergence of Blake Griffin and eric Gordon, and after resigning Jordan, and signing Chauncey Billups and Caron Butler, the Clippers are looking very relevant again. The Clippers are deep too, having Kamen, Mo Williams and other strong role players to come off the bench. Look for the Clippers to be a strong team this year. The leadership of Billups will be huge if he will chooses to play for the clips, and also if he can stay healthy.

7- Jazz: The Jazz look poised to play a strong season this year. Devin Harris and Al Jefferson will likely be more productive in their 2nd season in Utah, Youngsters Hayward and Favors showed very encouraging signs of elite level play late last season. Also, after 4 days of training Camp, the Word on the street is that Rookie Alec Burks is impressing coaches with his passing and scoring Abilities. Look for him to crack the starting lineup sometime this season.

8- Blazers: Even after losing Roy and Oden, The Blazers still have the talent to compete. Have to say however that can't help but feel bad for Portland Fans. a Few Years Ago, just after they had drafted Oden, they looked to have a seriously Bright Future ahead of them with a core of Aldridge, Oden, and Roy.

9- Hornets: After losing David West and watching the whole Chris Paul trade vetoed, the Hornets seem to be Slipping out of playoff team material. How effective will a disgruntled Paul be this year? and if he is effective, does he have the supporting cast to make much noise in a stacked western conference.

10-Warriors: The Warriors are talented but young; they also don't play defense, though Jackson says they will. Shouldn't be hard for Jackson to be a better coach then an announcer. but without a defensive stopper in the paint, the Warriors don't look to be any better than last year.

11-T-wolves: The Wolves are getting better, and i will go on record to say that it would not surprise me if they made the playoffs. How much of an impact will Rubio, Williams, and Adleman have on team that has a culture of losing.

12-The Rockets may actually be better than this, but a great deal seems uncertain. though they play like a team, you can't help but wonder if the rockets will be able to avoid the re-building phase.

13- Suns: The Suns are setting. Steve Nash may get moved before seasons end, who knows. You have to love Hills Dedication to the game and to his team after coming back from injuries and resigning with an aging team. Grant Hill is a rare breed, that is for sure.

14- Kings: How will Jimmer Gel with Reke, and Cousins. can you imagine Jimmer Hoisting up a shot from Jimmer Land as cousins is calling for ball on the low block, and then Cousins chasing Jimmer into the locker room out of anger (jk). one has to believe there are problems to be solved in regards to chemistry and maturity in Sac-town before they will be relevant again.

15-Nuggets: After losing Chandler, Martin, and Smith, the nuggets look to be on their way to a full blown rebuilding stage again. remember the Nuggets pre melo?... Yeah it may be ugly. Throw in the fact that Nene may not resign in Denver and you have a long hard road ahead of you if you are a nugget fan. It is too bad that a star like Melo can walk away (guns blazing) from the team that drafted him. you have to wonder if the League has many players that value Loyalty over the market and the money they make; players like that are a priceless commodity, and stars like that don't appear to exist.
 
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I'd love to see our young'uns (Kanter, Favors, Hayward and Burks) take off and have a strong season. I think we will see Favors, Hayward and Burks starting by the end of the season. Add a nice draft pick in 2012 via the GSW on top of that and we are looking ok.
 
I guess the Nuggets are disbanding?

Outside of that, nice summation.

Is there a petition for this or something? If so I will sign that thing as many times as they let me. I dislike them as much as the Lakers.
 
Good analysis there. Not a lot to argue with, I think you pretty much nailed it. Duly rep'ed.
 
I guess the Nuggets are disbanding?

Outside of that, nice summation.

I read that thing 3 times because I knew there was someone missing. I just couldn't put my finger on who. The Nuggets could be so bad this year with all those guys bolting for China. Or could be good. Who knows with them
 
I guess the Nuggets are disbanding?

Outside of that, nice summation.

Oops. I copied and pasted but left off the Nuggets on accident.

15-Nuggets: After losing Chandler, Martin, and Smith, the nuggets look to be on their way to a full blown rebuilding stage again. remember the Nuggets pre melo?... Yeah it may be ugly. Throw in the fact that Nene may not resign in Denver and you have a long hard road ahead of you if you are a nugget fan. It is too bad that a star like Melo can walk away (guns blazing) from the team that drafted him. you have to wonder if the League has many players that value Loyalty over the market and the money they make; players like that are a priceless commodity, and stars like that don't appear to exist.
 
10-Warriors: The Warriors are talented but young; they also don't play defense, though Jackson says they will. Shouldn't be hard for Jackson to be a better coach then an announcer. but without a defensive stopper in the paint, the Warriors don't look to be any better than last year.

I have a couple places I disagree with your assessment. The warriors will have Biedrens to patrol the paint. He isn't Chandler but he moves
better than say Al Jefferson. But they start 3 really poor defenders in Lee, Ellis and Curry. Dorell Wright is okay on D. But you're right they won't be very good except for Fantasy Basketball.


9- Hornets: After losing David West and watching the whole Chris Paul trade vetoed, the Hornets seem to be Slipping out of playoff team material. How effective will a disgruntled Paul be this year? and if he is effective, does he have the supporting cast to make much noise in a stacked western conference.

This team has no NBA depth and no serious scoring options after Paul. I don't see them going anywhere. Paul keep them out the basement of the western conference but just barely.

8- Blazers: Even after losing Roy and Oden, The Blazers still have the talent to compete. Have to say however that can't help but feel bad for Portland Fans. a Few Years Ago, just after they had drafted Oden, they looked to have a seriously Bright Future ahead of them with acore of Aldridge, Oden, and Roy.

I think you are badly unestimated how good Portland's talent is. Felton, Matthews, Wallace, Aldridge and Camby is still a good starting lineup.

They will have Batum and Oden (for part of the season) off the bench.


My list of teams

The Contenders
1. Dallas
2. OKC
3. Memphis

Pretenders

4. Lakers
5. Clippers
6. San Antonio

Fighting for right to lose in the 1st round of the playoffs

7. Portland
8. Utah
9. Phoenx
10. Golden St.
11. Minnesota (I think Aldeman makes a huge difference- they have talent.)
12. Houston (Has enough talent to have a chance.)

Fighting for Lottery Position

13. New Orleans
14. Sacramento
15. Denver
 
I have always disliked the idea of teams fighting for a "first round exit". Look at what GSW did to Dallas a few years ago and Utah to Denver two years ago. Both teams were counted out right from the beginning and both made it to at least round 2. Any team that makes it to any level has a chance of making it further. Probably not a likely occurance but nothing is a forgone conclusion.
 
I have a couple places I disagree with your assessment. The warriors will have Biedrens to patrol the paint. He isn't Chandler but he moves
better than say Al Jefferson. But they start 3 really poor defenders in Lee, Ellis and Curry. Dorell Wright is okay on D. But you're right they won't be very good except for Fantasy Basketball.




This team has no NBA depth and no serious scoring options after Paul. I don't see them going anywhere. Paul keep them out the basement of the western conference but just barely.



I think you are badly unestimated how good Portland's talent is. Felton, Matthews, Wallace, Aldridge and Camby is still a good starting lineup.

They will have Batum and Oden (for part of the season) off the bench.


My list of teams

The Contenders
1. Dallas
2. OKC
3. Memphis

Pretenders

4. Lakers
5. Clippers
6. San Antonio

Fighting for right to lose in the 1st round of the playoffs

7. Portland
8. Utah
9. Phoenx
10. Golden St.
11. Minnesota (I think Aldeman makes a huge difference- they have talent.)
12. Houston (Has enough talent to have a chance.)

Fighting for Lottery Position

13. New Orleans
14. Sacramento
15. Denver

interesting! feel like we pretty much are saying the same thing. I said the Blazers will compete and they have talent. I agree with that, i was just pointing out that without Roy and oden, there is a drop off. I can see why you would put the hornets at 13, but don't you remember last year when the Hornets took the Lakers to 6 games without West in the playoffs. i think you may be underestimating them. don't you agree? and aren't we saying very similar things about the warriors? Lee is a terrible defender and so is Biedrens. I have got to think that if you went to 82 games.com, you'd see Jefferson was better, but i could be wrong.
 
I have always disliked the idea of teams fighting for a "first round exit". Look at what GSW did to Dallas a few years ago and Utah to Denver two years ago. Both teams were counted out right from the beginning and both made it to at least round 2. Any team that makes it to any level has a chance of making it further. Probably not a likely occurance but nothing is a forgone conclusion.

At 6, 7 and 8 you are playing OKC, Dallas or Memphis. Those teams are clearly superior and should beat any of the teams further down the list.

Normally a team and a coach have to experience the playoff to learn how win series. If you have a experienced coach you have a chance but if both are inexperienced -- that would be really tough.
 
interesting! feel like we pretty much are saying the same thing. I said the Blazers will compete and they have talent. I agree with that, i was just pointing out that without Roy and oden, there is a drop off. I can see why you would put the hornets at 13, but don't you remember last year when the Hornets took the Lakers to 6 games without West in the playoffs. i think you may be underestimating them. don't you agree? and aren't we saying very similar things about the warriors? Lee is a terrible defender and so is Biedrens. I have got to think that if you went to 82 games.com, you'd see Jefferson was better, but i could be wrong.

Roy hardly played last year and Oden didn't play. They proved last year they can play really well with out them.
 
At 6, 7 and 8 you are playing OKC, Dallas or Memphis. Those teams are clearly superior and should beat any of the teams further down the list.

Normally a team and a coach have to experience the playoff to learn how win series. If you have a experienced coach you have a chance but if both are inexperienced -- that would be really tough.

Key word. I agree it is unlikely but you never know.
 
I have a couple places I disagree with your assessment. The warriors will have Biedrens to patrol the paint. He isn't Chandler but he moves
better than say Al Jefferson. But they start 3 really poor defenders in Lee, Ellis and Curry. Dorell Wright is okay on D. But you're right they won't be very good except for Fantasy Basketball.

Agree with most everything, but think the Rockets are getting underestimated a little. They may still get their center. I would put them 8th on the list. Nene may still end up there.


This team has no NBA depth and no serious scoring options after Paul. I don't see them going anywhere. Paul keep them out the basement of the western conference but just barely.



I think you are badly unestimated how good Portland's talent is. Felton, Matthews, Wallace, Aldridge and Camby is still a good starting lineup.

They will have Batum and Oden (for part of the season) off the bench.


My list of teams

The Contenders
1. Dallas
2. OKC
3. Memphis

Pretenders

4. Lakers
5. Clippers
6. San Antonio

Fighting for right to lose in the 1st round of the playoffs

7. Portland
8. Utah
9. Phoenx
10. Golden St.
11. Minnesota (I think Aldeman makes a huge difference- they have talent.)
12. Houston (Has enough talent to have a chance.)

Fighting for Lottery Position

13. New Orleans
14. Sacramento
15. Denver

Agree with most everything, but think the Rockets are getting underestimated a little. They may still get their center. I would put them 8th on the list. Nene may still end up there.
 
Roy hardly played last year and Oden didn't play. They proved last year they can play really well with out them.

yeah you are right. i should have been more specific. Portland was a bubble team last year and they will be a bubble team this year. i meant that without Oden and Roy, or the potential of a healthy Oden and Roy, they are not contenders anymore as they are currently constituted, but yes they may very well be a playoff team. Of course, i understand that Oden could come back healthy and contribute, but how many people believe that seriously at this point. it would seem that with every knee injury the likelihood of that happening diminishes. hope he is able to play for his sake; he should have the chance, but it does not look like he will ever be a long term contributor in the league.
 
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