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Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

If we stupidly give up Gobert, I'd love Ayton. But we absolutely CANNOT trade him to a western contender like PHX or Dallas. He will become an absolute roadblock for the rest of his contract and will play with a vengeance against Utah.
Oh I agree. I don't want to trade him just to trade him. I was just addressing those who want us to hold out for something that might not ever be offered.

In my personal opinion, we risk so much by bringing back Rudy to a brand new coach while his value is at it's all time highest.
 
In addition to those items... You also have certainty on the value of the pick you are getting. Atlanta may give a 2023 1st and it is number 27 if they have a good year... or the draft may be looking really shallow. It also gives you a chance to show Donovan (keeping Don is Ryan's goal) that he wants to stay in part because player X showed some promise... harder to do if you say "hey we have pick 21 in 2023 who could be real good". Like Embiid probably isn't excited about pick 23 this year but he likes his future with Maxey (2nd year guy I know... but that's the idea).

If the offer is JC/Capela for Rudy... then they can take a damn walk and we wait. I feel fairly strongly that we are getting a bit more than that and likely get a stronger offer by draft night.

Bingo. Couldn’t have said it better myself. I think we are getting a bit more than Collins/Capela as well. I think we nab 16 and another pick or Hunter/Huerter if we add something.
 
I wouldn't be shocked if he doesn't get moved. The vibe I got from Andy makes me think there isn't a lot of urgency on Jazz's part to move him.
Good. It wouldn't be a vote of confidence for a front office and administration stating that their priority, above all, is to win next year, and then choose the option that makes it worse.
 
After the draft we don’t get to utilize draft picks in the deal and pick who we want such as pick 16 from Atlanta.

During the season is even worse because if you move on from Rudy you want to do it before the season. For one why risk injury or his value going down and for two how is that going to help you compete if you change the entire makeup of the team mid-season?
How much does #16 really move the needle though? We could always acquire future picks.
 
Tony Jones on Checketts show said it's not a slam dunk that Rudy gets moves and the Jazz may very well keep him, but if he does get moved, Atlanta is the most likely destination. Says the Jazz really want Hunter and the Hawks really want to keep him...says maybe the Hawks will add another first to try and get a deal done. The Jazz have durability concerns about all of Hunter, Collins and Capella.

He doesn't think a Jazz/Bulls deal is likely because the Bulls don't have much the Jazz want...thinks it would probably take Patrick Williams and 3 first round picks.

He also said he hasn't heard anything about the Wizards being willing to give up the 1oth pick for Conley, but he did say if they trade Mike or Bojan they will likely try to trade there way into the draft.
 
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Tony Jones on Checketts show said it's not a slam dunk that Rudy gets moves and the Jazz may very well keep him, but if he does get moved, Atlanta is the most likely destination. Says the Jazz really want Hunter and the Hawks really want to keep him...says maybe the Hawks will add another first to try and get a deal done. The Jazz have durability concerns about all of Hunter, Collins and Capella.

He also said he hasn't heard anything about the Wizards being willing to give up the 1oth pick for Conley.

Collins/Capela/16/Charlotte pick gets it done for me. That’s a nice haul.
 
Tony Jones on Checketts show said it's not a slam dunk that Rudy gets moves and the Jazz may very well keep him, but if he does get moved, Atlanta is the most likely destination. Says the Jazz really want Hunter and the Hawks really want to keep him...says maybe the Hawks will add another first to try and get a deal done. The Jazz have durability concerns about all of Hunter, Collins and Capella.

He doesn't think a Jazz/Bulls deal is likely because the Bulls don't have much the Jazz want...thinks it would probably take Patrick Williams and 3 first round picks.

He also said he hasn't heard anything about the Wizards being willing to give up the 1oth pick for Conley, but he did say if they trade Mike or Bojan they will likely try to trade there way into the draft.
Hunter is so average imo... I hope that is our line we are using to get more out of them for allowing them to keep him.
 
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