Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

[YoungJefe]

Williams is somewhat theoretical as of right now. He's a much better prospect than Ayo and is under team control longer (only a year). I like him much more than Hunter... I like him less than OG. He has the highest ceiling of those guys... but he might just never realize that potential.

Ayo is nice though.

Ayo was who I wanted at #30, smh.

 

[Elizah Huge]

I think I’m on an island here, but Williams the actual player doesn’t do much for me. If the reason to be excited about Williams is potential, then I’m just as (if not more) keen to pursue other future facing assets. Like, if they are being really resistant to putting him in the deal and really want Gobert (they really should), then that theoretically means you can ask for more elsewhere.

I’ve said this before but I’m as high but probably higher on Ayo than I am Williams. Vuc (necessary matching salary), Ayo, White, #18, an unprotected future 1st, and either another 1st or a raft of 2nds sounds fair to me if the Jazz are intent on trading Gobert.

Williams is a WAY better prospect than Ayo. I was even thinking we ask for Ayo as well in the deal. If they don’t want Gobert for that then they don’t get him.

Toronto has the most to offer now and in the future. A OG/Trent Jr package for Gobert is best case scenario.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Butler hardly played and was inefficient when he did, nothing we've seen has given me any faith that he'll be a guy that sticks around or is a rotational player for us. NAW was a first round pick for a reason, he struggles with efficiency too though.

How do you expect a guy to be consistent when you throw him in games randomly for a few minutes max. Quin never game him a chance and it’s a damn ****ing shame. He was a mid-first round prospect who fell due to medicals. Butler had the shortest leash possible.

 

[YoungJefe]

Rival teams have for weeks described the Hawks as a team looking to make broad changes around All-Star guard Trae Young. De’Andre Hunter and Onyeka Okongwu are widely regarded as the only two other Hawks that the team wouldn’t trade.

 

[YoungJefe]

How do you expect a guy to be consistent when you throw him in games randomly for a few minutes max. Quin never game him a chance and it’s a damn ****ing shame. He was a mid-first round prospect who fell due to medicals. Butler had the shortest leash possible.

When was Butler considered a mid-1st round pick?

 

[YoungJefe]

I think I’m on an island here, but Williams the actual player doesn’t do much for me. If the reason to be excited about Williams is potential, then I’m just as (if not more) keen to pursue other future facing assets. Like, if they are being really resistant to putting him in the deal and really want Gobert (they really should), then that theoretically means you can ask for more elsewhere.

I’ve said this before but I’m as high but probably higher on Ayo than I am Williams. Vuc (necessary matching salary), Ayo, White, #18, an unprotected future 1st, and either another 1st or a raft of 2nds sounds fair to me if the Jazz are intent on trading Gobert.

Williams was the #4 pick for a reason. Ayo/White would give us two more smaller guards...

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Butler hardly played and was inefficient when he did, nothing we've seen has given me any faith that he'll be a guy that sticks around or is a rotational player for us. NAW was a first round pick for a reason, he struggles with efficiency too though.

Butler is a mid first round pick last year if he doesn't have a heart issue (or knee red flag). Jared was put in a ****** situation to succeed. Wait until summer league to pass any judgement. Butler was the MOP on one of the most dominant college teams. He had some good flashes... he didn't even get a summer league last year.. the talent is there.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

When was Butler considered a mid-1st round pick?

He was mocked in the late lotto pretty consistently before the medical stuff.

 

[Elizah Huge]

When was Butler considered a mid-1st round pick?

Literally before the draft there was talk he could go in the teens. Every mock draft had him late teens early twenties. On here we actually wanted to do a deal to where we moved up a few spots to try and grab him. We didn’t know about the medicals.

 

[YoungJefe]

He was mocked in the late lotto pretty consistently before the medical stuff.

Link? He was 21 years old with average physical tools, how many guys with that skill-set are lottery picks?

 

[Elizah Huge]

Butler is a mid first round pick last year if he doesn't have a heart issue (or knee red flag). Jared was put in a ****** situation to succeed. Wait until summer league to pass any judgement. Butler was the MOP on one of the most dominant college teams. He had some good flashes... he didn't even get a summer league last year.. the talent is there.

He was mocked in the late lotto pretty consistently before the medical stuff.

The one person who makes me feel sane the majority of the time lol. Were guys hiding under a rock last year?

 

[YoungJefe]

Literally before the draft there was talk he could go in the teens. Every mock draft had him late teens early twenties. On here we actually wanted to do a deal to where we moved up a few spots to try and grab him. We didn’t know about the medicals.

Link me to these mocks, lol. I always saw him as a guy in the 25-30 range...