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Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

Ferguson_Mellochill said:
Jazz could take Westbrook and waive him, that at least saves longer term salary. I don't think the Jazz are in any hurry to do that, but it's better than taking Simmons.
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No argument there. Westbrook would be the ideal commander for this tank, if it were happening. Good locker room guy from what I remember and basketball skills that keep digging towards Challenger Deep.
 
sip said:
There is no comparison between the 2. When Malone left there was no advantage to us for the Lakers to be bad. With the Rudy trade our future assets are tied directly to the success or failure of the wolves. How some of you can't see that is crazy to me. I like Rudy but I sure as hell don't want the wolves to turn into a great team because that hurts us.
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Some people value things besides "what helps me/us", some don't seem to.
 
One Brow said:
It's a truly fragile ego that assume anyone who disagrees must not understand.

I understand your point completely. I just don't start from the same value-space that you do.
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I’m already passed this conversation and I have made my point already there is no need to continue it further.
 
Ben Simmons is a falling knife… who’s to say he is a buy low right now? It’s just like someone that says “I’ll buy Bitcoin when the market falls off and it’s at 30k” but guess what it can still fall a lot and when it does you don’t feel like you’ve definitely found the bottom. What if he can’t start to begin the season? His value will fall exponentially from where it is now. If they want to do it for JC and Bogey… okay great but I’m not giving a pick. There is a legit shot he doesn’t play basketball again. This feels like Larry Sanders or Royce White a little. So go ahead and try to catch a falling knife but even with just expirings it has a chance to cut you in meaningful ways.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Ben Simmons is a falling knife… who’s to say he is a buy low right now? It’s just like someone that says “I’ll buy Bitcoin when the market falls off and it’s at 30k” but guess what it can still fall a lot and when it does you don’t feel like you’ve definitely found the bottom. What if he can’t start to begin the season? His value will fall exponentially from where it is now. If they want to do it for JC and Bogey… okay great but I’m not giving a pick. There is a legit shot he doesn’t play basketball again. This feels like Larry Sanders or Royce White a little. So go ahead and try to catch a falling knife but even with just expirings it has a chance to cut you in meaningful ways.
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Lol. It's the riskiest of risky moves for sure. That bitcoin comparison is so incredibly spot on.

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NUMBERICA said:
Truly great players can be found in the 20's. Not that uncommon, actually. They can also be packaged to move up.
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Players that are better than Ayton as he is today or hell even in 2-3 years? It can happen but in all likelihood it won’t. For example, go back 5 total drafts and show me 1-2 players total who are as good or nearly as good as Ayton who was drafted in the 20’s. I already did it for you:

The best five best players drafted in the 20’s the last 5 drafts are OG Anunoby, Anfernee Simons, Jarrett Allen, Jordan Poole and Tyrese Maxey.

So if you’re lucky maybe one per draft? That’s pretty uncommon if you ask me. Are any of those guys better than Ayton?
 
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