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Cyrone Torbin said:
Rodney Hood hit the go-ahead game winning shot with 17 seconds left. He only played 17 minutes because the refs were all over him with foul calls early in the 1st and 2nd half. Finished with 8 points and 4 assist on 3/5 shooting. Prepared to destroy Quincy Miller next week.
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I didn't know MSU is playing Baylor next week. That should be an excellent game. Where's it played? I'm calling the home team to win.
 
PKM said:
I didn't know MSU is playing Baylor next week. That should be an excellent game. Where's it played? I'm calling the home team to win.
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Neutral location, but it is in Dallas, so it will be pretty much a home game for Baylor.
 
I think I'm officially on the "I want Perry Jones" bandwagon.

I seem to recall a while back reading on this thread that it has been decided (by those who know) that Jones is a PF, not a SF. Sorry for bringing it up again if it's already been hashed out, but if somebody's in this camp could you please tell me why Jones won't be an NBA SF? Does he lack lateral quickness (like Jeremy Evans) and would thus have trouble guarding the SF position? Is his frame filling out too quickly to really expect him to retain his quickness? Is there something lacking offensively for the SF?

This is all probably moot, since I can't see him going lower than 3 in the draft this year and I don't expect the Jazz to be that bad. But could you imagine a squad in 3 years with Burks, Hayward, Jones, Favors, and Kanter?
 
I like Gilchrist but would be fine with another top SF at this point. Man I hope GSW land the #8 pick lol.
 
idiot said:
I think I'm officially on the "I want Perry Jones" bandwagon.

I seem to recall a while back reading on this thread that it has been decided (by those who know) that Jones is a PF, not a SF. Sorry for bringing it up again if it's already been hashed out, but if somebody's in this camp could you please tell me why Jones won't be an NBA SF? Does he lack lateral quickness (like Jeremy Evans) and would thus have trouble guarding the SF position? Is his frame filling out too quickly to really expect him to retain his quickness? Is there something lacking offensively for the SF?

This is all probably moot, since I can't see him going lower than 3 in the draft this year and I don't expect the Jazz to be that bad. But could you imagine a squad in 3 years with Burks, Hayward, Jones, Favors, and Kanter?
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I think we need to distinguish the difference between Terrance Jones and Perry Jones III. My vote is tjones and pj3.

I am also on the pj3 bandwagon. A front line of Kanter, Favors and Pj3 would almost be too much to handle.

For me the best part is thinking that if we don't get Pj3, then we might still have a chance to land MKG. Either way the Jazz come out winners.

I know it is more of a dream, but the season is still very early.

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idiot said:
I think I'm officially on the "I want Perry Jones" bandwagon.

I seem to recall a while back reading on this thread that it has been decided (by those who know) that Jones is a PF, not a SF. Sorry for bringing it up again if it's already been hashed out, but if somebody's in this camp could you please tell me why Jones won't be an NBA SF? Does he lack lateral quickness (like Jeremy Evans) and would thus have trouble guarding the SF position? Is his frame filling out too quickly to really expect him to retain his quickness? Is there something lacking offensively for the SF?

This is all probably moot, since I can't see him going lower than 3 in the draft this year and I don't expect the Jazz to be that bad. But could you imagine a squad in 3 years with Burks, Hayward, Jones, Favors, and Kanter?
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Why would he be an ideal SF? He doesn't have the perimeter game that is expected of a SF, no three point shot at all. He is 6'11" and will fill out to 250 lbs.
 
Update of the UK starters from tonight's game (all are lottery or fringe).

PG - Marquis Teague - 11pts, 8 asts, 1rb, 1st, 1to
SG - Doron Lamb - 24pts, 6rbs
SF - Kidd-Gilchrist - 17pts, 8rbs, 6asts, 1st, 1bk
PF - TJ got hurt (not season-ending)
C - Anthony Davis - 14pts, 18rbs, 5bks
 
idiot said:
I think I'm officially on the "I want Perry Jones" bandwagon.

I seem to recall a while back reading on this thread that it has been decided (by those who know) that Jones is a PF, not a SF. Sorry for bringing it up again if it's already been hashed out, but if somebody's in this camp could you please tell me why Jones won't be an NBA SF? Does he lack lateral quickness (like Jeremy Evans) and would thus have trouble guarding the SF position? Is his frame filling out too quickly to really expect him to retain his quickness? Is there something lacking offensively for the SF?

This is all probably moot, since I can't see him going lower than 3 in the draft this year and I don't expect the Jazz to be that bad. But could you imagine a squad in 3 years with Burks, Hayward, Jones, Favors, and Kanter?
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The question is whether PJ3 is quick enough or defensive-minded enough to play SF. He could be an Odom-like combo-forward depending on match-ups. He's not really been a natural post player, more like a mid-range version of Dirk Nowitzki, but he seems to be developing that aspect of his game. (By that, I mean you could bet money that he'll pull up from 5 - 10 feet and shoot a jumper rather than go to the rim.) I'm guessing NBA coaches would want to play him at the PF. I'm impressed with his steals and assists.
 
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Here is a breakdown of Barnes game someone did on another site. I think it raises a lot of red flags that he cannot be a first or second option in the NBA:

Through the Tar Heels’ first ten games, Harrison Barnes’ scoring efficiency on catch-and-shoot/0-dribble possessions is a robust 1.51 points per possession. This includes a sizzling 55.6 percent from behind the 3-point arc.
On possessions in which he takes a single dribble, Barnes’ efficiency falls off to 0.81 points per possession.
When using multiple dribbles, it drops further to 0.66 points per possession. With 2+ dribbles, Barnes is shooting just 31.3 percent through 10 games with an assist-to-turnover ratio of 0.33 (3 assists, 9 turnovers).
 
Jazz4ever said:
Here is a breakdown of Barnes game someone did on another site. I think it raises a lot of red flags that he cannot be a first or second option in the NBA:

Through the Tar Heels’ first ten games, Harrison Barnes’ scoring efficiency on catch-and-shoot/0-dribble possessions is a robust 1.51 points per possession. This includes a sizzling 55.6 percent from behind the 3-point arc.
On possessions in which he takes a single dribble, Barnes’ efficiency falls off to 0.81 points per possession.
When using multiple dribbles, it drops further to 0.66 points per possession. With 2+ dribbles, Barnes is shooting just 31.3 percent through 10 games with an assist-to-turnover ratio of 0.33 (3 assists, 9 turnovers).
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That's horrid. We do not need a guy that can't create his own shot from the wing. At least not a starter/go-to guy that can't ..
 
Yea, I am not that big on Barnes but he started off slow last year. I just don't see the "it" factor in the kid. I prefer Kidd-Gilchrist because he just has the demeanor to be a guy who steps up big. I know KG has to work on his shot but he does other things to help the team to win.
 
I am treading very cautiously here, but thought I'd mention a fun fact on Teague.

Every bit the same as Rose, Evans, Wall, and Knight, Teague was absurdly bad to start his freshman season under Calipari. Now, 10 games in, it's almost a mirror image of what we've seen with his predecessors. Teague started his first four games (against inferior competition) with 11 assists and 18 to's. In his next six games he's now at 35 asts and 9 to's. Whether it's fool's gold, I don't know, but that's quite a massive turnaround.
 
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