Following potential 2012 draftees
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Tony Wroten had another good game this week (27/7rb) and is getting some buzz. He plays more as an SG, but has passing skills and could be a combo.
Also, just wanted to point out that Brandon Knight looked pretty good in his first pre-season game. He's not going to cross up and dunk on people like rose or Wall, but he's plenty quick for the PG spot, and he has good timing and anticipation. He looks quicker than D.Will. I'm not overly concerned with getting a guard that has jet-speed. IQ and all-around skill matter more.
Also, just wanted to point out that Brandon Knight looked pretty good in his first pre-season game. He's not going to cross up and dunk on people like rose or Wall, but he's plenty quick for the PG spot, and he has good timing and anticipation. He looks quicker than D.Will. I'm not overly concerned with getting a guard that has jet-speed. IQ and all-around skill matter more.
Ideal skills for a SF is what I was thinking. You may be right. I haven't seen anything but highlights. He sure has the speed and handle for a SF. I thought I've read that he has some possibilities for developing a perimeter game, though it's not strong yet. But if he has quickness to be SF, I still say you've got to put him there, even without a strong perimeter shot.
I think if you put him at PF, he'll be a disappointment. He doesn't bang or rebound well.
I'm leaning to hell no. He has definite upside, but, imo, is not in the same galaxy as those that came before him. Wall, Evans, Rose, all were obvious .. Teague is not.
I'd take him in the 15 - 20 range of the draft. He'll be a fringe starter is my guess. PG's suck for maybe THREE years, starting with this coming draft.
Blazing speed may not be important, but for me, first-step is crucial. I love Brandon, but he stagnated the offense at times in the half-court .. just not great getting by his man. Having said that, his shot made up for a lot of that.
Yep, he's a tweener. Doesn't have elite handles for the SF position, nor the shooting. Passing is good, but not too elite SF level. I think he'd excel as a PF. He has the size to defend and is a mismatch on the other side of the ball.
BB is different now. Not sure what else to say. I like PJIII, I just don't think he projects all that well at SF .. except for the 'certain matchups' equation.
It's hard to find a "prototypical SF" to be honest, and if you try too hard to the perfect one, you might end up drafting badly--e.g., Dorell Wright, Donte Greene, Jeff Green, etc. Grant Hill looked like the prototypical SF, but he couldn't shoot outside. Glenn Robinson was a shooter, but didn't play defense and couldn't drive. Gerald Wallace has nice defense and hang time, but lacks shooting touch. TMac was an offensive machine, but didn't play defense. Jamal Mashburn was a decent prototype for an SF, as was Scottie Pippen, but Pippen was a shaky outside shooter. Josh Howard is a decent all-around SF in terms of skill set. I guess Kevin Durant is the new standard, unless you want a power-3 like Carmello, but even Durant lacks post skills and is a so-so passer.
When it's all said and done, the SF position might actually have the least direct impact on winning games, just based on where he's positioned on the floor in most sets. We may be better off deciding if we're looking for a shooter, a slasher, a defender, a facilitator, a rebounder, etc. and see if we can find someone with 2 or 3 of these skills. Assume everyone is going to have pluses and minuses. I would assume having a guy who can play defense, run out on breaks and hit open looks is the ideal.
The lure of Perry Jones is to get a guy who has a couple unguardable moves 10-feet from the hoop, and also has the ability to dump the ball off to cutters or post players. Anything else he gives you, in terms of rebounds, defensive plays, etc. is a bonus.
When it's all said and done, the SF position might actually have the least direct impact on winning games, just based on where he's positioned on the floor in most sets. We may be better off deciding if we're looking for a shooter, a slasher, a defender, a facilitator, a rebounder, etc. and see if we can find someone with 2 or 3 of these skills. Assume everyone is going to have pluses and minuses. I would assume having a guy who can play defense, run out on breaks and hit open looks is the ideal.
The lure of Perry Jones is to get a guy who has a couple unguardable moves 10-feet from the hoop, and also has the ability to dump the ball off to cutters or post players. Anything else he gives you, in terms of rebounds, defensive plays, etc. is a bonus.