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Simone Fontecchio Two-year deal

perkinsfor3 said:
Reminds me of the time the Spurs signed this scrub from the Greek league for a year in the season Robinson was injured, by the name of Dominique Wilkins.
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Impressed by your memory (I hadn't realized Wilkins was as peripatetic as Wikipedia says he indeed was), but not really seeing why this Jazz signing reminds you of Wilkins's end of career wanderings.
 
A new article on his path to the NBA (interesting that it includes a bit of alienation of his original team/fans):

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Simone Fontecchio's path: from being discarded by Italy's top teams to the NBA

One of the main news of the last few days was related to Italian basketball. National team member Simone Fontecchio left Baskonia after just one season to make the jump to the NBA, signing a two-year deal worth a bit more than $6 million with the Utah Jazz. Fontecchio becomes the third Italian...
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Saint Cy of JFC said:
It would be kind of depressing if Fontecchio ends up being really good that it makes us rethink if we blew it up too soon.
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It struck me he is the Royce replacement. My friends at Best Buy are telling me that we shouldn't be so sure that DA is going to blow it up. Their reasoning is that DA and Ryan are getting more pi$$ed by the day at the Knicks. The rumor was that DM was going to be shipped first but Miami didn't have their ducks in a row quite yet. The Jazz FO was already POed about the stunt the Knicks brass pulled off in the playoffs. Now the Knicks are treating the Jazz like they have to trade him and DA and the owner are not having their tomfoolery. I wouldn't be surprised that DM and team currently on the roster are still here on opening night.
 
homeytennis said:
It struck me he is the Royce replacement. My friends at Best Buy are telling me that we shouldn't be so sure that DA is going to blow it up. Their reasoning is that DA and Ryan are getting more pi$$ed by the day at the Knicks. The rumor was that DM was going to be shipped first but Miami didn't have their ducks in a row quite yet. The Jazz FO was already POed about the stunt the Knicks brass pulled off in the playoffs. Now the Knicks are treating the Jazz like they have to trade him and DA and the owner are not having their tomfoolery. I wouldn't be surprised that DM and team currently on the roster are still here on opening night.
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If Donny sticks around, I think he is still gone by the trade deadline. And if you aren't going to blow it up, they should have kept Rudy and used Donny, Royce, and either Bogey/JC to retool. If you had kept Rudy and traded Donny, Mike has plenty left in the tank to be a good facilitating PG, especially with Rudy. At this point, NOT blowing it up doesnt make sense.
 
gomretat said:
If Donny sticks around, I think he is still gone by the trade deadline. And if you aren't going to blow it up, they should have kept Rudy and used Donny, Royce, and either Bogey/JC to retool. If you had kept Rudy and traded Donny, Mike has plenty left in the tank to be a good facilitating PG, especially with Rudy. At this point, NOT blowing it up doesnt make sense.
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It sounded like they felt Donovan was the problem and offered him to trade first. The deal didn't obviously consummate and suddenly the TWolves were on the phone. The pressure is off now as the Jazz are out of luxury tax territory and have some incoming assets. I know a lot has been written but the longer this plays out I doubt the trade gets made. The Knicks got caught jackpotting around and we will see if the trade, blow up and tank occurs.
 
homeytennis said:
My friends at Best Buy are telling me ...
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I'm not sure I want to ask this, but what are you trying to say here? Are you saying you're talking to people who directly know a bit about the Jazz's thinking? Or are you simply referring to the speculation of certain people with some interest in the Jazz?
homeytennis said:
The rumor was that DM was going to be shipped first but Miami didn't have their ducks in a row quite yet. The Jazz FO was already POed about the stunt the Knicks brass pulled off in the playoffs. Now the Knicks are treating the Jazz like they have to trade him and DA and the owner are not having their tomfoolery
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Can you connect the dots a little more here? What does the Miami situation have to do with the Knicks? Where is the idea that the Knicks are treating the Jazz like they have to trade him coming from? It certainly doesn't seem to be what the Knicks are operating like in public (post-playoffs at least). If the Jazz weren't interested in the Knicks offer, why would they even engage with the Knicks?

I guess some of this could make some sense if the argument is that the Jazz didn't intend to trade Gobert and were originally interested in trading DM for the Herro package and retooling that way. But then the Gobert offer turned into an offer that couldn't be refused. Then the Herro package got put on hold because the Heat were actually more interested in Durant and were (and continue to treat) Mitchell as the fallback option. Is this basically what you're saying?

But even if this is the case, things still get murky. Why are the Knicks involved at all? Are the Jazz still operating on the idea that they want to trade DM no matter what? Otherwise, why would there be frustration with the Knicks negotiations? If the Knicks don't offer a sufficient package, just move on. Why all the leaks about being close to a deal?
 
idiot said:
I'm not sure I want to ask this, but what are you trying to say here? Are you saying you're talking to people who directly know a bit about the Jazz's thinking? Or are you simply referring to the speculation of certain people with some interest in the Jazz?

Can you connect the dots a little more here? What does the Miami situation have to do with the Knicks? Where is the idea that the Knicks are treating the Jazz like they have to trade him coming from? It certainly doesn't seem to be what the Knicks are operating like in public (post-playoffs at least). If the Jazz weren't interested in the Knicks offer, why would they even engage with the Knicks?

I guess some of this could make some sense if the argument is that the Jazz didn't intend to trade Gobert and were originally interested in trading DM for the Herro package and retooling that way. But then the Gobert offer turned into an offer that couldn't be refused. Then the Herro package got put on hold because the Heat were actually more interested in Durant and were (and continue to treat) Mitchell as the fallback option. Is this basically what you're saying?

But even if this is the case, things still get murky. Why are the Knicks involved at all? Are the Jazz still operating on the idea that they want to trade DM no matter what? Otherwise, why would there be frustration with the Knicks negotiations? If the Knicks don't offer a sufficient package, just move on. Why all the leaks about being close to a deal?
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I can't answer the last question. It seems that the Jazz were looking to move DM first, have talks with Miami and feel their offer is insufficient. Then the TWolves enter and a deal is made. Now it could very well be that DM and some other players are going to be included in tradeapalooza with several teams and a lot of players and picks moving. Right now I don't see an urgency from the Jazz to get this done right now.
 
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