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A couple weeks ago Lauri and Kessler were my only for sure keepers but NAW has firmly worked his way into that group for me. He can be our new star role player to fill that Ingles role. I also really want to see how a Sexton and NAW pairing in the backcourt can work.
 
NAW is improving no doubt, still has a ways to go to prove himself for real. Even Sundiata Gaines had a huge game-winner and had a few games that got us excited. Didn't have staying power. I do want to see more of him, but he will really be tested when teams start to focus their scouting on him. We have several dudes who have benefited from limited scouting and surprising teams with their unexpectedly good play. But once the playoff picture starts to solidify and teams start scouting in earnest with more film to draw from, many of these will be exposed.
 
Its still kessler and lauri for me. Need a bigger sample size from naw.
I also like vando way more than most other posters. He is one of those glue guys who does all the little things and his effort is infectious. Unsung hero imo. Though he certainly wouldnt be on my untouchable list i think he could play a draymond role for us when we hit our ceiling if he keeps developing. His offensive game is getting better little by little. In both the last two games he made little floater/baby hooks from mid range. Something he couldnt seem to do earlier in the season. His decision making with the ball on the break has gotten better too.
I even saw him not be able to find a teammate to pass to while having the ball on the perimeter and so he took his man off the dribble and went to the rim for a bucket of foul. Happened last night and the game before.

There are a lot of players to like on this team. So fun


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Yeah I love these last few games from NAW but this definitely feels reactionary. I love his size at guard, he's defensive potential, etc but he is still only 10 games removed from DNPs. Especially for a guy on an expiring rookie deal, it will be interesting to see what it'll cost to continue the NAW experience.

My tiers currently would go:
Keepers that I'd be really sad to lose:
Lauri, Kessler

Pieces I'd like to keep unless a great deal:
Vanderbilt, Sexton, Beasley, NAW

Feel so incredibly meh about:
Agbaji, Dok, Bolmaro, THT

Don't fit our timeline and would flip for positive value at deadline:
Conley, Olynyk, Clarkson, Gay
 
I could rank them in descending order of who I would like to see them keep, or the other way around, in who they should look to move, or at least make fully available for assets.

For the first part:

Lauri
Kessler
Clarkson
Sexton
NAW
Beasley
Fontecchio

The rest could be moved or be the focal point for trades to improve or gather assets.

Top ones to look at moving:

Gay
Conley
KO
Vando
THT

These might carry some trade value. Everyone else just isn't impactful enough to warrant being included on either list. They are just trade filler, imo.



But to say who I would view as straight up untouchable, I can only have a list of 1 there: Lauri. Everyone else is fodder for improvements or assets.
 
LogGrad98 said:
NAW is improving no doubt, still has a ways to go to prove himself for real. Even Sundiata Gaines had a huge game-winner and had a few games that got us excited. Didn't have staying power. I do want to see more of him, but he will really be tested when teams start to focus their scouting on him. We have several dudes who have benefited from limited scouting and surprising teams with their unexpectedly good play. But once the playoff picture starts to solidify and teams start scouting in earnest with more film to draw from, many of these will be exposed.
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His skillset is perfect for a role player and I think you are overrating how teams scout role players. When NAW is shooting with confidence then he becomes a complete swiss army knife and he may be our best perimeter defender. I've always been NAW's biggest supporter on this board but I honestly didn't think Hardy would ever give him a shot but thank god for injuries forcing his hand. I'm still a little worried that when Sexton comes back the minutes crunch forces him back to spot minutes though and I don't fully trust Hardy. Just last week he benched him for a couple games for no reason after he had been playing really well.
 
Jaanipoeg said:
Yeah I love these last few games from NAW but this definitely feels reactionary. I love his size at guard, he's defensive potential, etc but he is still only 10 games removed from DNPs. Especially for a guy on an expiring rookie deal, it will be interesting to see what it'll cost to continue the NAW experience.

My tiers currently would go:
Keepers that I'd be really sad to lose:
Lauri, Kessler

Pieces I'd like to keep unless a great deal:
Vanderbilt, Sexton, Beasley, NAW

Feel so incredibly meh about:
Agbaji, Dok, Bolmaro, THT

Don't fit our timeline and would flip for positive value at deadline:
Conley, Olynyk, Clarkson, Gay
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This post is absolutely perfect imo. Just forgot Simone. He is probably in the meh category but he is interesting too. His sample size is too small at this point.



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sip said:
His skillset is perfect for a role player and I think you are overrating how teams scout role players. When NAW is shooting with confidence then he becomes a complete swiss army knife and he may be our best perimeter defender. I've always been NAW's biggest supporter on this board but I honestly didn't think Hardy would ever give him a shot but thank god for injuries forcing his hand. I'm still a little worried that when Sexton comes back the minutes crunch forces him back to spot minutes though and I don't fully trust Hardy. Just last week he benched him for a couple games for no reason after he had been playing really well.
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Honestly, it would be sweet if we could trade conley for a first round pick. Start NAW or Sexton (the other is the backup) and THT and Beasley and clarkson in emergencies. Maybe we take some lumps. Maybe we dont. This is the season of win win so it doesnt really matter.


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Look NAW has been awesome. I need like 10 more games before I can say anything definitive on him though. He's shooting 56% from three the last 5 games... I'm comfortable saying that is a fairly extreme outlier. If he is 38% plus by season's end it would be great. I'm not sure what to make of it but would be a super wild jump in production... we should give it 10-15 games before getting too excited.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Look NAW has been awesome. I need like 10 more games before I can say anything definitive on him though. He's shooting 56% from three the last 5 games... I'm comfortable saying that is a fairly extreme outlier. If he is 38% plus by season's end it would be great. I'm not sure what to make of it but would be a super wild jump in production... we should give it 10-15 games before getting too excited.
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IF the season ended today how high would you got on a 3 year deal?
 
fishonjazz said:
This post is absolutely perfect imo. Just forgot Simone. He is probably in the meh category but he is interesting too. His sample size is too small at this point.



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Oh yeah I definitely forgot Simone. He is above meh for me and below really being excited about him long-term as a 27yo rookie. Might make a new tier above meh for him and Ochai called "Hopes and dreams that I know will never actually move the needle for us"
 
When the trades first happened, the player I was the most excited about was Beasley, with Lauri second. Those two have flipped for me since the season started. Kessler looks like a great pickup and likely long-term starter, but I don't see him going to any all-star games or making all-NBA 1st or 2nd teams
 
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