Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Vando’s biggest value is his age. No way I want to see him traded before knowing how he develops further. Minnesota already regrets they moved him.

I feel like Vando's improvements are going to be pretty marginal.

Also think his biggest value right now is that he's on a great contract for the next 1.5 years so if you are a contender looking to add a piece, he's a low cost option where you dont have to match salary (impossible for these great teams who dont have any bad expensive salaries).

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I dont see JV and Walker ever making sense together on the court and if you have lofty expectations for WK, you probably want to move Vando.

 

[Elizah Huge]

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[Handlogten's Heros]

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Just avoid all three of these dudes going forward.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

I would love to see what he could do in a lineup where he could get some time as a point forward. Like having NAW and beasley spotting up on the three point line and markennan and KO in the lineup too. He doesn't get much opportunity to be a playmaker since he plays most of his minutes with conley and clarkson.

It's tough to be a playmaker when nobody respects your shot. When they can sag off you, the passing lanes dry up and you can't create them by driving either.

 

[fishonjazz]

It's tough to be a playmaker when nobody respects your shot. When they can sag off you, the passing lanes dry up and you can't create them by driving either.

On the other hand, we all agree that draymond is a great playmaker....... and no one respects his shot. Vando shoots 1 three per game in 25 minutes and shoots 41% from three. Green takes 1.5 threes per game in 31 minutes per game and shoots 29% from three. Green has lots of great three point shooters on the court with him giving him space with the ball to drive and kick even though no one respects his shot. That is why i mentioned a lineup with Vando that has NAW, Beasley, Markkenan, and Olynyk. Lots of shooters. He might suck in that role but I would like to see it.

One other cool thing I saw from Vando a few games ago that I hadn't seen before was a play were he had the ball with his back to the basket way out close to the three point line. Everyone knew he wanted to get rid of the ball so the defense was denying the ball by covering all the other dudes. The guy guarding Vando was crowding him to make the pass more difficult. Vando used a very quick and explosive turn towards the hoop and first step and went straight the rim where the opponents center (might of been nurkic) had to come over and hack him.
That could be a new wrinkle for the offense. Have vando fake a handoff style pass and the defenders attention would go towards clarkson or whoever but instead have him keep it and go to the paint to score or kick out to a three point shooter (which he is getting quite good at as well.)

 

[Park Bites]

Yeah, while the low is in the low-40's and the high hasn't topped 65 in a while. Pretty bracing breeze here right now. Not Utah cold, but it damn cold for Cali. Is he getting desperate?

I was thinking the same thing. My kids are coming from Utah next week for Christmas and want to go to the beach. I am like, damn it's going to be in the low 60s, lets not go to the beach.

 

[underdog]

I feel like Vando's improvements are going to be pretty marginal.

Also think his biggest value right now is that he's on a great contract for the next 1.5 years so if you are a contender looking to add a piece, he's a low cost option where you dont have to match salary (impossible for these great teams who dont have any bad expensive salaries).

Yes he is good value in terms of his current contract, but I was talking about his value as a player going forward. He is five years away from his peak, but I like him already.

 

[Park Bites]

Was thinking today who could we snag for say the Net's draft pick. It is looking like it will be a mid-20s pick. I was wondering if grabbing a player that has shown some promise in the NBA would be better than adding another prospect. I understand it could be used to move up. Was just thinking. Here are some that I was thinking about

Patrick Williams - Been a disappointment more or less. If the bulls blow it up he might be worth taking a gamble. Not sure the Net's pick would get it done. Again just spitballing.
John Collins - IF they decide to lower their asking price. I am not sure what they would want.
Rui Hachimura - MAybe???
RJ Hampton - When given minutes he has looked good.
Theo Maledon - Would not give up a first for him but I like him
James Wiseman - I still think there is something there and with Kessler, we could gamble on him.
Moses Moody - Has been awful this year.
Kenrich Williams - Can never have enough wings
Cedi Osman - Not sure that the Cavs would give up on him but its something to think about
Ziaire Willaims - Hardly playing and they are in a win-now mode.
Jonathan Isaac - is oft injured, but he has some potential but not as much now that Banchero is a stud.

Again just quickly scanning rosters and would any of them be a better gamble than someone drafted in the 20s?

Serious question

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Yes he is good value in terms of his current contract, but I was talking about his value as a player going forward. He is five years away from his peak, but I like him already.

Given his playstyle this might be his peak.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Was thinking today who could we snag for say the Net's draft pick. It is looking like it will be a mid-20s pick. I was wondering if grabbing a player that has shown some promise in the NBA would be better than adding another prospect. I understand it could be used to move up. Was just thinking. Here are some that I was thinking about

Patrick Williams - Been a disappointment more or less. If the bulls blow it up he might be worth taking a gamble. Not sure the Net's pick would get it done. Again just spitballing.
John Collins - IF they decide to lower their asking price. I am not sure what they would want.
Rui Hachimura - MAybe???
RJ Hampton - When given minutes he has looked good.
Theo Maledon - Would not give up a first for him but I like him
James Wiseman - I still think there is something there and with Kessler, we could gamble on him.
Moses Moody - Has been awful this year.
Kenrich Williams - Can never have enough wings
Cedi Osman - Not sure that the Cavs would give up on him but its something to think about
Ziaire Willaims - Hardly playing and they are in a win-now mode.
Jonathan Isaac - is oft injured, but he has some potential but not as much now that Banchero is a stud.

Again just quickly scanning rosters and would any of them be a better gamble than someone drafted in the 20s?

Serious question

Zhaire has been hurt most of the year. Patrick Williams will cost more and is likely the last guy they move if they are rebuilding. Just a couple notes.

 

[Park Bites]

Zhaire has been hurt most of the year. Patrick Williams will cost more and is likely the last guy they move if they are rebuilding. Just a couple notes.

Like I said spitballing. I didn't do any research so your feedback is appreciated.

Honestly, RJ Hampton is my preference on that quick list. When he got playing time he put up good numbers. Now the Jazz would have to move some of our other players because the backcourt is a little crowded.