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HermanG said:
Apparently few days ago we made another offer for John Collins. This is the same guy from Hawks board who called the two other trade talks before they were in twitter feeds. Says he knows someone from FO.

Beasley + Gay + 2 protected firsts for the years where Hawks have no picks (due to Murray trade). Doesnt detail protection level though.

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Gonna call BS here on his sauces. If we had offered that then everyone would know it... cuz it would be an auto-accept. They would do well to get malik and Ko straight up for John Collins imo.
 
HermanG said:
Actually that sort of makes more sense, if they were asking for that package instead of us offering it.

Anyways, I know the guy has known some stuff beforehand so I think the writing on the wall is that we are still negotiating about Collins and neither side has shut it down.
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Why would they shut it down. Until the guy is traded or we trade players they would want the doors are always open. If that is what Atlanta offered then great... its similar to them saying they offered Collins for Lauri. I just think it shows how unlikely it is to happen if that is where the teams are - a four first round pick difference... we want 2 firsts and they offered Collins if we give two firsts.

Hawks fans and podcasters are pretty hilarious with the offers they throw out there for their guys... remember they got one protected pick for Huerter who I think had significantly more value than John Collins does... if you get fleeced by the Kings you might want to chill on how optimistic you get in your other trade proposals.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Why would they shut it down. Until the guy is traded or we trade players they would want the doors are always open. If that is what Atlanta offered then great... its similar to them saying they offered Collins for Lauri. I just think it shows how unlikely it is to happen if that is where the teams are - a four first round pick difference... we want 2 firsts and they offered Collins if we give two firsts.

Hawks fans and podcasters are pretty hilarious with the offers they throw out there for their guys... remember they got one protected pick for Huerter who I think had significantly more value than John Collins does... if you get fleeced by the Kings you might want to chill on how optimistic you get in your other trade proposals.
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ALL of this.

That's the market and you made a great point with Huerter. Also, the Hawks are in free fall, they dont have the luxury to sit and see if a bluff is called at this point.
 
LogGrad98 said:
John Amaechi once scored 31 points.
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And that’s why we ended up with him on our team. So if there’s any history to be learned from that…

Anyway, maybe the Hawks are trying to trade him to NY and trying to “leak” us “offering two picks” as leverage.
 

View: https://twitter.com/protectedpick/status/1610310292176777217



So the Suns may be basically closed for business due to the sale and Sarver. The sale won't be completed before the trade deadline. Sarver has no reason to want the Suns to be good... likely a big FU to the fans that kicked him out of ownership (kind of... well in his mind anyway) to let this team die on the vine for a year.
 
Bodhi said:
ALL of this.

That's the market and you made a great point with Huerter. Also, the Hawks are in free fall, they dont have the luxury to sit and see if a bluff is called at this point.
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They are also the one with the big tax bill in 12 months... this is one where we just sit and wait.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:

View: https://twitter.com/protectedpick/status/1610310292176777217



So the Suns may be basically closed for business due to the sale and Sarver. The sale won't be completed before the trade deadline. Sarver has no reason to want the Suns to be good... likely a big FU to the fans that kicked him out of ownership (kind of... well in his mind anyway) to let this team die on the vine for a year.
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I would be very surprised if that was the case. Sarver wasn't forced to sell and I'm sure he legitimately likes this team and if they win a title he would probably view it with pride.
 
sip said:
I would be very surprised if that was the case. Sarver wasn't forced to sell and I'm sure he legitimately likes this team and if they win a title he would probably view it with pride.
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His apology when the suspension came out was kind of a "woe is me I made a mistake and now no one will give me forgiveness" type of BS. You might be surprised how petty rich egomaniacs can be. I think if he felt the fanbase and community would continue to support him he never would have sold. He is by all accounts "sophmoric".
 
Any trade that ships out Gay can't be all bad..

Adam Silver and the NBA already blackballed Sarver. Makes me think they can potentially override any voting rights/signoffs he may have concerning the Suns and any future trades even if the sale isn't finalized, especially if overall salary coming in is less that what's going out. Who knows..
 
Windhorst say's the Timberwolves could use a guy like Conley, but it seems the Jazz haven't made him available in trade talks, at least not yet. It's hard to believe they wouldn't be willing to move him. I don't blame them for not wanting to trade him to the Wolves though... we don't want to do anything to help them improve this season.


View: https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status/1610356365880397824
 
Jingled said:
Windhorst say's the Timberwolves could use a guy like Conley, but it seems the Jazz haven't made him available in trade talks, at least not yet. It's hard to believe they wouldn't be willing to move him. I don't blame them for not wanting to trade him to the Wolves though... we don't want to do anything to help them improve this season.


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Tony Jones made a prediction on an article that Mike Conley will be the PG when the Jazz make the playoffs again (which could be this year). I have a hard time believing they wouldn’t move him. Maybe they don’t want to take bad salary back for him unless a premium pick is attached.

Agreed with the second part as well. We will not do anything to help them.
 
Elizah Huge said:
Tony Jones made a prediction on an article that Mike Conley will be the PG when the Jazz make the playoffs again (which could be this year). I have a hard time believing they wouldn’t move him. Maybe they don’t want to take bad salary back for him unless a premium pick is attached.

Agreed with the second part as well. We will not do anything to help them.
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I don't get the feeling we are planning on being a player in FA this summer... and that would be the benefit of moving Mike. I don't see someone offering something good for him at his number. As an expiring I think he may be a better trade chip next year.
 
i would be shipping out KO Gay and Conley Conley has been junk since coming back from injury and KO is worst defender in the team and Gay not even worth mentioning
 
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