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KqWIN said:
What if I say you havent watched. Meaningless, and more meaningless coming from you in particular.
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Sir you can say whatever you want, but you havent watched Klintman. Dude was running point forward for Sweden in the U20s last summer.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Sir you can say whatever you want, but you havent watched Klintman. Dude was running point forward for Sweden in the U20s last summer.
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You can say whatever you want, but you know whether or not I watch Klintman is not up to what you have to say lol.

I legitimately have zero idea what people expect when they use this as an argument. I can literally say you have not watched a single second of him....it's the most meaningless statement ever. It's not a trump card, it makes you look like an idiot lol.
 
KqWIN said:
You can say whatever you want, but you know whether or not I watch Klintman is not up to what you have to say lol.

I legitimately have zero idea what people expect when they use this as an argument. I can literally say you have not watched a single second of him....it's the most meaningless statement ever. It's not a trump card, it makes you look like an idiot lol.
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Damn dude you really pressed. You called him supposedly skilled. He is skilled. If you watch him it's pretty clear.
 
Just want to add my two cents to the above convo. I have watched less footage of all of these guys than the rest of the board combined (highlights or actual game footage). Im literally the least knowledgeable person in this thread. Having said that i know that we should take hendricks at 9 if he is there and hawkins at 16 and we should try to get GG jackson as well somehow. Would love to get Cam as well. (I mostly just a want a big wing that can do a lot of stuff. I know hawkins isn't a big wing but i also love me some top notch outside shooting) If its between black and wallace then we have to take wallace or jazz management are idiots.
 
fishonjazz said:
Just want to add my two cents to the above convo. I have watched less footage of all of these guys than the rest of the board combined (highlights or actual game footage). Im literally the least knowledgeable person in this thread. Having said that i know that we should take hendricks at 9 if he is there and hawkins at 16 and we should try to get GG jackson as well somehow. Would love to get Cam as well. (I mostly just a want a big wing that can do a lot of stuff. I know hawkins isn't a big wing but i also love me some top notch outside shooting) If its between black and wallace then we have to take wallace or jazz management are idiots.
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I’m still high on Grady, I see a lot of Hayward skill and physical tools with elite shooting. If he can reach jazz Gordon heights you have to draft him at 9. To me he’s one of the safest picks in this. But the more I think about it the more I think the jazz will draft Black regardless of who’s available, but none of this matters after we eventually win the draft lottery
 
Jingled said:
I've been thinking a lot lately about the possibility of Ausar falling to us at 9th. I would be very excited if it ended up happening.
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I think there's a really good chance of this happening. If not Ausar, it would be Jarace or Walker falling. I think one of Hendricks/Dick and one of Black/Wallace will go before our pick.

I still have a great deal of skepticism about the Thompson twins, and I do think Amen is on a different level than Ausar, but getting Ausar at #9 seems like a good value to me.
 
Craig Porter Jr set some kind of Portsmouth Tournament record for steals.

Watching him at the NTX combine and dude gets his hands on everything and is in so many defensive plays. Is constantly tipping rebounds, getting deflections, or just in the paint challenging shots.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Craig Porter Jr set some kind of Portsmouth Tournament record for steals.

Watching him at the NTX combine and dude gets his hands on everything and is in so many defensive plays. Is constantly tipping rebounds, getting deflections, or just in the paint challenging shots.
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Yeah, I like him.
 
I have thought we need to trade up from 16 but I think I'm fairly comfortable and confident either Bufkin, Hawkins, or Leonard Miller is there. Was listening to Sam Vecenie on Miller and it really made me think... some of you likely know this but I guess he broke his wrist for like his senior year in HS and was 6-7ish at the time. So this is "his first year playing at 6-10/11" according to Sam. He has wingspan, height, and motor... put up bonkers G League stats especially the last 15 games or so... If we don't get Hendricks or Walker at 9 I think Miller at 16 is something I'd be pretty stoked about.
 
Miller's shot mechanics are wonky but the FT percentage is good and he made enough (from an NBA line) to believe it could work well enough.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Miller's shot mechanics are wonky but the FT percentage is good and he made enough (from an NBA line) to believe it could work well enough.
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His shot is significantly less fugly than it was before. I think it's been good for him to be a little less point forwardy and more of a relentless rim finisher. He can be like Harrell on offense but with much more defensive potential.

I think he's in a similar boat as Clowney for me. He's good enough to be drafted at #16.....but it's not a huge need and I like the other prospects there so while I like the prospect I don't love the pick necessarily.
 
KqWIN said:
His shot is significantly less fugly than it was before. I think it's been good for him to be a little less point forwardy and more of a relentless rim finisher. He can be like Harrell on offense but with much more defensive potential.

I think he's in a similar boat as Clowney for me. He's good enough to be drafted at #16.....but it's not a huge need and I like the other prospects there so while I like the prospect I don't love the pick necessarily.
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Wouldn't be my first choice of guys that could be there... but I like him as a fall back type of option. I think there are likely guys at #16 I would prefer... but if every GM drafted like me and took "my guys" I think Miller would be one I'm cool with.

I've thought about 16/28 for 21/22 with the Nets as there are quite a few guys I'd be okay with in the top 20ish. I think we could actually get a sweetener in that type of deal. Or maybe you go 28 and THT for 21 and Harris?
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Wouldn't be my first choice of guys that could be there... but I like him as a fall back type of option. I think there are likely guys at #16 I would prefer... but if every GM drafted like me and took "my guys" I think Miller would be one I'm cool with.

I've thought about 16/28 for 21/22 with the Nets as there are quite a few guys I'd be okay with in the top 20ish. I think we could actually get a sweetener in that type of deal. Or maybe you go 28 and THT for 21 and Harris?
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It all depends on who's on the board at the time. I expect there to be a lot of trade action because there are so many players in similar tiers/groups. I still suspect that there's a good chance we trade up from #9.
 
I know Brice isn't a favorite here, and the reasons why are valid, but man he is a bucket. I'd be interested to see what the reports are on his character/work ethic. I subscribe to the fat = potential theory. I think he can be the next Bogey. Bogey is probably more of a fluid athlete in transition, but I think Brice has more in his bag and I don't cringe thinking he will turn the ball over when he calls his own number.

Still not a real candidate for #9...but at $16, not bad at all.
 
KqWIN said:
I know Brice isn't a favorite here, and the reasons why are valid, but man he is a bucket. I'd be interested to see what the reports are on his character/work ethic. I subscribe to the fat = potential theory. I think he can be the next Bogey. Bogey is probably more of a fluid athlete in transition, but I think Brice has more in his bag and I don't cringe thinking he will turn the ball over when he calls his own number.
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Can anyone point to a "fat" player who lost a substantial amount of weight and got better?

Fat players are fat players probably because of genetics. Some people just hold onto fat and perform better with that weight.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Can anyone point to a "fat" player who lost a substantial amount of weight and got better?

Fat players are fat players probably because of genetics. Some people just hold onto fat and perform better with that weight.
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Um yeah… that guy in Denver
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Can anyone point to a "fat" player who lost a substantial amount of weight and got better?

Fat players are fat players probably because of genetics. Some people just hold onto fat and perform better with that weight.
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Maybe I should say fat = underrated. You're absolutely right about genetics and holding onto weight. I think people are too quick to call (relatively) fat players unathletic and maybe overrate players that are more lean. There are a bunch of players who are better off with extra lbs instead of being leaner. But there are certainly guys that did change their body composition and got better for it. Jokic and Draymond come to mind immediately.
 
Zion is too fat doe
 
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