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its nice to plan about getting a plethora of highly buzzed up prospects, but kind of unreasonable to expect it works out that way. The reality is many of these options either won't be there when we pick, or we won't pick them because they showed no interest in being a Jazzman if they were. On top of that, few if any one and done's outside the top picks, are ever as impressive or successful as everyone expected based on hype icing.
we are not getting Cam without trading up imo, and if we did that we wont get any one of those others you have outside maybe Bilal if he comes back t earth and is their bpa at 28.

Ya i was saying the jazz should trade up to get cam using #9 and future picks or sexton or something and then use 16 to get whoever drops out of wallace, bilal, bufkin, dick, hawkins, etc.
 
Can anyone find anything to criticize about him? Any flaws or red flags? Im not seeing any
the biggest red flag is just that he wasn't very good in college last year. wasn't efficient scoring, didn't score very much. average rebounder, didn't make plays for teammates, turned it over a lot, had poor hands (which makes sense because it turns out they are abnormally small), made a lot of dumb plays, etc. granted, some of that could be that he began the year injured and the wrist may have bothered him all year, his coach sucked, the offense sucked, he had selfish teammates, he was one of the youngest players in the country, etc. so there are some explanations, but the fact is, he just wasn't very good and i don't know how much of what i just said is explanation and how much of it is excuses.

fwiw, cam was my favorite prospect going in to the college season with how powerful and athletic he was and after dominating for team usa in the summer and all the spring HS all star games, so i never missed a game of his if it was on TV - probably saw him 20+ times this year - and while the power and the athleticism (iow, upside) was apparent, he just wasn't that good (though there were certainly flashes). it wasn't unusual for his coach to sit him down the stretch in close games because they were often better without him on the floor.
 
Wasserman just dropped his new mock (he’s the one reporting Bilal has a promise before 14):

1. Wemby
2. Scoot
3. B. Miller
4. Amen
5. Whitmore
6. Black
7. Walker
8. Ausar
9. Dick

Without an obvious star on the board, the Jazz could value Dick's sure-thing shooting and look to mirror the Miami Heat's success by loading up on shot-making. Utah could be drawn to the strategy of building with the firepower/spacing provided by Dick and Lauri Markkanen alongside Walker Kessler's offensive efficiency and rim protection.

10. Hendricks
11. George
12. Lively
13. Bilal
14. NSJ
15. Wallace
16. JHS

The Jazz could pass on guards at No. 9 with the idea that Hood-Schifino, Wallace or Kobe Bufkin could be there at No. 16. Hood-Schifino's positional size and length, prolific pull-up game and flashy passing have led to scouts picturing enticing upside for a prospect who'll be available in the late lottery to mid-first round.

17. Bufkin
18. Hawkins
19. Howard
20. Podz
22. L. Miller
28. Bailey
31. GG
Podz >>> JHS eight days a week.
 
every time i start to like jhs a little bit, i remind myself of that. just not sure what jhs gives you that podz doesn't give you at a higher level.
Right. Podz does almost all of the theoretical JHS stuff SO MUCH better. And it seems like every time he laces up he is on a mission to melt people’s faces and does it. Half-court lobs, deep threes of the dribble, that ****ing floater. Does it with ease and connects at a high rate.

The only thing that could make the draft better than a sudden hysteria for Bilal and JHS is if NSJ has a similar last minute glow up.
 
Right. Podz does almost all of the theoretical JHS stuff SO MUCH better. And it seems like every time he laces up he is on a mission to melt people’s faces and does it. Half-court lobs, deep threes of the dribble, that ****ing floater. Does it with ease and connects at a high rate.

The only thing that could make the draft better than a sudden hysteria for Bilal and JHS is if NSJ has a similar last minute glow up.
My concern on Podz is that he may not be quick enough laterally to survive. I like him. I'm okayish on JHS... like I see what his believers could see. I just don't think he realizes it and at 9 there will be way better bets... at 16 I think there are better bets too... but it starts to make more sense.
 
the biggest red flag is just that he wasn't very good in college last year. wasn't efficient scoring, didn't score very much. average rebounder, didn't make plays for teammates, turned it over a lot, had poor hands (which makes sense because it turns out they are abnormally small), made a lot of dumb plays, etc. granted, some of that could be that he began the year injured and the wrist may have bothered him all year, his coach sucked, the offense sucked, he had selfish teammates, he was one of the youngest players in the country, etc. so there are some explanations, but the fact is, he just wasn't very good and i don't know how much of what i just said is explanation and how much of it is excuses.

fwiw, cam was my favorite prospect going in to the college season with how powerful and athletic he was and after dominating for team usa in the summer and all the spring HS all star games, so i never missed a game of his if it was on TV - probably saw him 20+ times this year - and while the power and the athleticism (iow, upside) was apparent, he just wasn't that good (though there were certainly flashes). it wasn't unusual for his coach to sit him down the stretch in close games because they were often better without him on the floor.
I dont see many glaring red flags for Cam, but he just didnt produce enough for him to be a slam dunk guarantee. He's got the tools in spades, and that's what makes him higher than others.
 
My concern on Podz is that he may not be quick enough laterally to survive. I like him. I'm okayish on JHS... like I see what his believers could see. I just don't think he realizes it and at 9 there will be way better bets... at 16 I think there are better bets too... but it starts to make more sense.
Yeah, I love the idea of Podz, but he's got cement feet guarding his own man. He also had pretty mediocre numbers when they played better competition. He will be an interesting one to keep up with because he has a lot of the advanced stats indicators.
 
I dont see many glaring red flags for Cam, but he just didnt produce enough for him to be a slam dunk guarantee. He's got the tools in spades, and that's what makes him higher than others.
The passing is an issue... but not like he can't fix or work around it. I think his shot is pretty... the way he moves gives me shower boners (sorry it got weird)... I just think he's a guy that becomes tough to deal with.
 
every time i start to like jhs a little bit, i remind myself of that. just not sure what jhs gives you that podz doesn't give you at a higher level.
JHS is bigger and better mover laterally. I also think JHS has better ability to rise up over NBA sized players to get his shot off where Podz might have to be more off-ball/quick decisions on-ball (effectively preventing him from being a primary handler and more a secondary side creator). You're also going to have to get someone to guard the 1 on the other team where JHS can realistically matchup with smaller quicker guards and not get absolutely cooked like Podz might.

I think Podz really needs to prove he's an elite shooter. He had elite 3pt% this season, but his FT% doesn't add up to an elite shooter, so it might have been a bit flukey.
 
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