2023 NBA Draft Megathread
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I think the Jazz would do that if they really believe in Jarace Walker or Taylor Hendricks. Then they'd take the guard of their choice at #9, whether that's Black, Bufkin, Hood-Schifino, Dick or possibly Coulibaly.
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Im not doing that if Cam is gone
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Ok, ya i would do it too.
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Cy thinks this video show's how low Taylor's ceiling is. I kid... I enjoy these but they don't do much for me in terms of opinions on guys.
No footage of any guard/wing ball handling skills
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Ant is who Cam makes me think of. Though an even better physical profile. Ant is 6 foot 4 and 225 lbs. Cam is 6 foot 7 and 232 pounds.
BTW I was watching some Cam porn just now and saw that he is only 18 years old. I was unaware. Could he still grow a bit more? I just like him more and more. Get him Ainge
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he's the 6th youngest player in the draft. the only guys who are younger are gg, whitehead, naji, clowney and coulibaly. only gg is significantly younger. he's within a month or two of those other guys.
I would do that. If we could walk away with Ausar at 6 and Henricks at 9, I would be absolutely thrilled.
Finishing my highlights watching of the top 30 today...
23. Bobi Klintman - OK... intrigued. VERY! Seems to have some ball skills that are good for a 6'10" big? Attacks closeouts with the dribble, and gets to the rim seamlessly... very fluid mover for size. Handle is not advanced, but good enough for slashing and attacking closeouts... good enough for simple pull up jumpers... the shot looks good. Looking at his stats now... Hm... this is weird. How does he only score 10 points per 40 mins? Something is fishy. Shooting numbers look good... might translate. 2pFG% looks horrible for a big. Why? Length/size intriguing for defensive potential?
24. Bilal Coulibaly - long, but somewhat skinny wing... slasher. Effortless athleticism. Has some creative finishes around the rim... but he will need to get stronger at the NBA level or he will get pummelled like Dante did. Flashes of handle... can he develop it so he can be an on-ball wing? Right now doesn't seem to have much of an off-the-dribble game... or pull up game? Seems to get to the rim though... this is nice. Shot looks OK... numbers are OK too... I am worried when young players are not given the chance to initiate offense even if they are playing among men, but something that immediately strikes me from his stats profile - he is actually efficient. He's playing at a high level in Europe against men, and even though he's not relied to create offense ... he is efficient with what he's relied to do. I think I'd have him higher than 24... top 20 for sure.
25. Sidy Cissoko - Big, long wing... has some explosive athleticism... passing? Ok I didn't expect that... looks like he's a willing and sometimes creative passer. His shot doesn't look great on the boxscore... He's interesting, flashes handle too, but mainly uses it to get to the rim. Doesn't rebound as much as I'd like for his size... I don't like his shot... but if you think you can coach him up to shoot at NBA average level... he's very intriguing to me ... How's his defense? I would guess there is some potential there because of athleticism and length...
26. Rayan Rupert - tall wing... not very explosive... seems like mainly below the rim finisher despite his size and length... his shot actually looks good to me but the 3p% is 31%... not good... he attacks the rim, but his 2pFG% makes me think the highlights I'm seeing are bad representation of his success in the paint. He doesn't seem really athletic to me, maybe why his efficiency from 2p is so bad. Honestly... not super interested in him ... I don't think...
27. Jett Howard - interesting. Is his height real(6'8"?). He doesn't look as big to me. OK, he seems to have some off-the-bounce game here... good handle, ability to score in the midrange and from 3. Shot looks good, both on the catch and off-dribble. Why is he ranked 27? He looks like he should be higher. Doesn't seem like a high-flyer. Is his defense bad? Stocks seem low... I guess that's why he's ranked this low?
28. Colby Jones - good size for a guard... doesn't seem particularly explosive, below the rim athlete. A lot of things in his highlights look solid, but nothing jumps at you... might be a solid rotational player, not sure about higher ceiling...
29. Maxwell Lewis - big/long wing. Shows some explosive verticality off two feet. Has good finishes with both hands at the rim. The shot looks solid. I think it will translate. Has some mid-range game(pull ups, turn around jumpers, etc). Rebounds well... willing passer. Defensive metrics not great...
30. Noah Clowney - 4/5? smallball 5? good movement for his size... has some athletic ability. Attacks close outs and attacks the rim... very good rebounder it seems. Shot looks OK(but 3p% and FT% don't suggest he will be a shooter in the NBA)... but they let him shoot over 3 a game. Interesting... Seems to have some defensive ability as a rim protector and overall defender.
What did I get wrong? Where did I miss context?
23. Bobi Klintman - OK... intrigued. VERY! Seems to have some ball skills that are good for a 6'10" big? Attacks closeouts with the dribble, and gets to the rim seamlessly... very fluid mover for size. Handle is not advanced, but good enough for slashing and attacking closeouts... good enough for simple pull up jumpers... the shot looks good. Looking at his stats now... Hm... this is weird. How does he only score 10 points per 40 mins? Something is fishy. Shooting numbers look good... might translate. 2pFG% looks horrible for a big. Why? Length/size intriguing for defensive potential?
24. Bilal Coulibaly - long, but somewhat skinny wing... slasher. Effortless athleticism. Has some creative finishes around the rim... but he will need to get stronger at the NBA level or he will get pummelled like Dante did. Flashes of handle... can he develop it so he can be an on-ball wing? Right now doesn't seem to have much of an off-the-dribble game... or pull up game? Seems to get to the rim though... this is nice. Shot looks OK... numbers are OK too... I am worried when young players are not given the chance to initiate offense even if they are playing among men, but something that immediately strikes me from his stats profile - he is actually efficient. He's playing at a high level in Europe against men, and even though he's not relied to create offense ... he is efficient with what he's relied to do. I think I'd have him higher than 24... top 20 for sure.
25. Sidy Cissoko - Big, long wing... has some explosive athleticism... passing? Ok I didn't expect that... looks like he's a willing and sometimes creative passer. His shot doesn't look great on the boxscore... He's interesting, flashes handle too, but mainly uses it to get to the rim. Doesn't rebound as much as I'd like for his size... I don't like his shot... but if you think you can coach him up to shoot at NBA average level... he's very intriguing to me ... How's his defense? I would guess there is some potential there because of athleticism and length...
26. Rayan Rupert - tall wing... not very explosive... seems like mainly below the rim finisher despite his size and length... his shot actually looks good to me but the 3p% is 31%... not good... he attacks the rim, but his 2pFG% makes me think the highlights I'm seeing are bad representation of his success in the paint. He doesn't seem really athletic to me, maybe why his efficiency from 2p is so bad. Honestly... not super interested in him ... I don't think...
27. Jett Howard - interesting. Is his height real(6'8"?). He doesn't look as big to me. OK, he seems to have some off-the-bounce game here... good handle, ability to score in the midrange and from 3. Shot looks good, both on the catch and off-dribble. Why is he ranked 27? He looks like he should be higher. Doesn't seem like a high-flyer. Is his defense bad? Stocks seem low... I guess that's why he's ranked this low?
28. Colby Jones - good size for a guard... doesn't seem particularly explosive, below the rim athlete. A lot of things in his highlights look solid, but nothing jumps at you... might be a solid rotational player, not sure about higher ceiling...
29. Maxwell Lewis - big/long wing. Shows some explosive verticality off two feet. Has good finishes with both hands at the rim. The shot looks solid. I think it will translate. Has some mid-range game(pull ups, turn around jumpers, etc). Rebounds well... willing passer. Defensive metrics not great...
30. Noah Clowney - 4/5? smallball 5? good movement for his size... has some athletic ability. Attacks close outs and attacks the rim... very good rebounder it seems. Shot looks OK(but 3p% and FT% don't suggest he will be a shooter in the NBA)... but they let him shoot over 3 a game. Interesting... Seems to have some defensive ability as a rim protector and overall defender.
What did I get wrong? Where did I miss context?
Indiana isn't showing enough of the video to draw much of a conclusion. I'd like to see him handle the ball and change direction though, make a spin move, shoot a turnaround, something that shows he's more than just a spot-up shooter.