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2023 NBA Draft Megathread

Saint Cy of JFC said:
I'm not commenting on them specifically or trying to refute anything, just that in general a "swing" is more about who you're passing on.
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I think its just as much about the certainty on a particular player. Guys with mystery surrounding them are more of a "swing" imo. Guys that could end up being AS or out of the league are swings... I'd say anyone drafted after 20 isn't a big swing at all since the risk reward isn't all that risky. Its more taking a flier at that point.
 
Elizah Huge said:
Who at 9 would be a swing type of pick for you?
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I would pay to trade up for Cam Whitmore even if it were a bit expensive. If I'm at #9, I'd probably go ahead and take Bilal and hope he develops the ability to shoot off the bounce.

The combination of age, athleticism, prototypical measurables, rapid improvement, and flashes of putting it together make Bilal a difficult prospect to pass on.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I think its just as much about the certainty on a particular player. Guys with mystery surrounding them are more of a "swing" imo. Guys that could end up being AS or out of the league are swings... I'd say anyone drafted after 20 isn't a big swing at all since the risk reward isn't all that risky. Its more taking a flier at that point.
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Taking Josh Primo at 12 last year was a huge swing and miss. That is the type of pick I would call a swing. Taking Bilal at 9 this year would be a swing and a swing I don’t want to make.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
I think it's kind of hard to say these things in hindsight. In hindsight we know how everything played out, so nothing is going to seem all that risky.
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I don’t think any of that is actually hindsight, though. To test, who was surprised that Luka, Jokic, or Kawhi went as EARLY as they did (I can think of literally 0 ever)? That’s what a swing is.
 
Ferguson_Mellochill said:
Sure, the odds may be low, but that doesn't change the fact that a team needs to try and draft those player. You simply need to have a transcendent player if you want to win. Maybe the Jazz have decided that they're going to acquire a disgruntled superstar via trade whether that player wants to come here or not. That's another approach. That has its risks as well.

But put another way, let's say the Jazz take Taylor Hendricks in this draft. He works out fine and becomes something like Jerami Grant, Robert Covington, or in a better-case scenario, he's like Trey Murphy.

In the grand scheme of things, so what? He's like your third or fourth guy. The Jazz give those types of guys away all the time now.
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Then you have another great building block... also his ceiling may surprise you... like the 10 or so other names we've already thrown out. Mikal Bridges was a key to getting the KD trade done... there is tremendous value in building out the asset base of the team. Maybe they are the linchpin to doing a star trade.
 
Elizah Huge said:
Taking Josh Primo at 12 last year was a huge swing and miss. That is the type of pick I would call a swing. Taking Bilal at 9 this year would be a swing and a swing I don’t want to make.
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And I actually think there are maybe like 10+ examples of guys where people were like "well that's a meh low upside pick" that ended up flipping around and looking damn smart.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
I'd much rather have Lauri as my top player than Tyrese, just my opinion.
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if lauri plays like he did last year every year, i would probably agree - but he's a top 10 player in the league if he plays like that. you just don't get dudes who score 25+ ppg on 65% TS - that's rarified air. Let alone who can hold their own defensively.

but i wouldn't trade lauri for scoot or miller either. and tyrese is in that tier.
 
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