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Jazz trade for John Collins

This is sort of a weird trade. We burned the #9 pick in the draft and now with this trade we relegate him to the bench for the foreseeable future. So is the plan to play more small ball with Hendo or JC playing the 5? Or are we planning to move someone else via trade?
Exactly. Why does no one else see this? It was redundant. Which tells me that more stuff is probably coming because DA is not as inept as DL. For DL he would have resigned Gay at 3/36 and called it a huge win.
 
Exactly. And they were all saying that Hendricks is raw. Anyone who doesn’t see this as a win is just crazy…
Umm... not all the Hendricks believes said he's raw... I know one for sure that didn't lol. He is good enough at the things he does well to play a role... I mean as much as any rookie is ready. He's not ready for 30+ minutes on a winner... but its not out of the question by year end that he could be adequate/close maybe. As long as Taylor is picking up 15-20 meaningful minutes per game next year I am good.
 
What are you talking about? This contract does the opposite of restrict us. Either Collins proves himself to be a quintessential piece that's worthy of his contract, or he becomes the contract to make the math work when we cough up a bunch of our picks to acquire a superstar. The only thing on our books are moderate contracts and rookie contracts. The only one getting paid soon-ish is Lauri. We're good to go even if Collins is the 'fine' version. If he's the "great" version - well, that just gives us even more options.
Exactly!!!!!
 
Umm... not all the Hendricks believes said he's raw... I know one for sure that didn't lol. He is good enough at the things he does well to play a role... I mean as much as any rookie is ready. He's not ready for 30+ minutes on a winner... but it’s not out of the question by year end that he could be adequate/close maybe. As long as Taylor is picking up 15-20 meaningful minutes per game next year I am good.
He’s 18 years old. He will need time before he can start against men.
 
Exactly. Why does no one else see this? It was redundant. Which tells me that more stuff is probably coming because DA is not as inept as DL. For DL he would have resigned Gay at 3/36 and called it a huge win.
Lots of us see it. Rookies take time though. If Hendricks is good enough to push JC for playing time that’s an amazing problem to have. Year 2 if it is stunting his growth we maybe do something about it.
 
Collins will start and play minutes next to Kessler, but he will effectively be the backup C (on offense) and I’m excited. Even if he only has 9 working fingers he’s still an animal around the basket, one of the very best in the entire league. His combo of size+athleticism+hands+ touch is actually unique.

I know the team isn’t all about Collins, but this is an amazing situation for him to thrive in. Now we get Micic?
 
Exactly. And they were all saying that Hendricks is raw. Anyone who doesn’t see this as a win is just crazy…
No Collins WAS a really good NBA player, he is not the same guy. It is obvious to everyone in the Hawks org. even though they clearly were trying to paint the picture that he was just having a down year trying to get value back in a trade for the past 2 seasons since he got busted. Fact is , he COULD get back to who he once was, but the odds it happens when he was so meh for 2 season that they never even tried to get him involved in the offense, says all I need to know about his ability or lack thereof
 
He’s 18 years old. He will need time before he can start against men.
He’s 19.5 and I agree… but raw is not the term I’d use. I think he will be more functional than most rookies at his age because of his skill set and athleticism. On a good team he likely deserves 15-20 minutes a night… on a **** team he’s fine to start earlier in his career. Raw is like what Bilal is.
 
Collins will start and play minutes next to Kessler, but he will effectively be the backup C (on offense) and I’m excited. Even if he only has 9 working fingers he’s still an animal around the basket, one of the very best in the entire league. His combo of size+athleticism+hands+ touch is actually unique.

I know the team isn’t all about Collins, but this is an amazing situation for him to thrive in. Now we get Micic?
A early first quarter sub of Collins for Hendricks or KO will come and then you might match Collins with Dunn (who was shockingly awesome in PnR last year when I looked it up).

Gonna be interesting to see how they mix and match… Hardy has some weapons/options and seems like a flexible dude.
 
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