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TheStormofWar said:
Themselves.

A lot the team's success in the playoffs would come down to Kessler's ability to stay on the floor and for Utah to nut up on the perimeter. If Skywalker can punish smaller lineups via post-ups, we will feast. If not, we may have issues. Same with being able to guard individually when teams go 5 Out.
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Kessler would be important for some series, less important for others. Jazz can go small with Collins/Lauri on the front line.
 
You treat Dame like Steph Curry and try to get more talent quickly. It could work if we keep tweaking and adding value
Which Ainge and Zanek have shown they can do. Push the chips in and go for it.
 
Dame has been one of the cleanest bills of health in the game and his game has not slowed down. This idea that small guards fall off a cliff just isn’t true. That may be true for super explosive guards who tax their knees and have major injuries like Wall, Westbrook, and Rose. Less true for guys who don’t play above the rim a lot and rely on their skill like Dame. Dame is arguably the second best shooter of all time and the guy ahead of of him is aging like fine wine. I don’t think people realize how good he was last year, it was arguably his best season as a pro. He has a lot of room for error if he does start to decline. We’re not acquiring Mike Conley who was never an all star. It’s Damian Lillard who was last seen playing at an MVP level.

I feel like people get lost in the sauce in collecting assets and don’t realize that the point of all of this is to acquire elite talent. If this window goes by and we get nothing from it it will be very disappointing. I get it, some people enjoy the NBA when winning does not matter.

It’s funny that the horror in this deal is being mediocre when Dame is 36. So to avoid that we’re perfectly fine being mediocre as long as it’s by design. It’s like paying Dame (what will probably be ~35% of the cap) is the only thing that matters and be complete doom for the franchise.

Dame+Lauri+Kessler+Cap space+Plenty of picks in reserve is a situation I want. If the Dame trade left us with nothing and in total financial ruin that would be one thing, but it’s not even close to that situation.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
How the hell is anyone going to stop Lauri/Dame in the playoffs?
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In regards to stopping Dame, teams have already been doing this. he has 22 career playoffs wins. . .
As I stated earlier, looking past his big highlight end of game shots - his game shrinks in the playoffs. It's why I've wanted to see Portland move on from him for half a decade. . .
 
I think we end up coming in 3rd in a Dame race. I could see Morey swinging a deal and not caring all that much about how comfortable or uncomfortable it is. Miami in pole position as long as they can find something okay for Herro. Even if Brooklyn ponied up one of the Phoenix firsts to turn Simmons into Herro... i think Portland might be able to talk themselves into 3 firsts and some bad, but short-ish salary. I would see if there is a first out there for Jacquez but maybe they also just keep him.
 
If you don’t want Dame… what’s the alternative? Hope Luka wants out and he is willing to give Utah a chance? Hope a rookie blows up to be a top 20 player in the next 1-2 years?

Embrace the Dame (if it’s a reasonable deal).
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Jazz got a better defensive team on paper than the Nuggets and they did just fine.
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Handlogten's Heros said:
With buckets!!!
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I guess we just have to agree to disagree. Do you really think if adding Lillard makes us that much of a no-brainer contender, we wouldn't be first in line to get him? Wouldn't you think all the analysts wouldn't be harping on how the Jazz have to make tha trade?

I just don't see it. I guess at this point we are just talking hypotheticals... so ... lets see what happens...
 
stitches said:
I guess we just have to agree to disagree. Do you really think if adding Lillard makes us that much of a no-brainer contender, we wouldn't be first in line to get him? Wouldn't you think all the analysts wouldn't be harping on how the Jazz have to make tha trade?

I just don't see it. I guess at this point we are just talking hypotheticals... so ... lets see what happens...
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I think Danny is probably trying to pay the right amount and not get squeezed and Portland is probably trying to squeeze.

And no, we are Utah. People arent going to be talking about us that much compared to Miami.
 
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