Who Would You Rather Have: Herro or Holiday?

[SoberasHotRod]

Stop already.. you are arguing one angle while ignoring the bigger concern.

That 33 year old is on a one year contract. He will cost a lot to get and there is no reason for him to stay beyond that one year. It’s a huge gamble to pay to bring him here and hope he stays. You only take that gamble if it makes you a contender, and the Jazz aren’t there yet.

Yeah, you don't do the deal if you don't think you can sell Jrue on staying in Utah for a couple of years, but it's also not like there are a lot of contenders with space to sign him in free agency either. I think he very likely looks to sign an extension with whatever team trades for him, unless he absolutely hates it there.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

If the player you spend 2 picks and at least one young asset on only has one year left on his contract you better have a good path forward to retain that player. Jrue is 33 and he isn’t going to wait us out to be a contender. If his player option was a team option I’d be all for this deal… we need the extra time to either acquire another piece or to allow the young guys to develop and become that piece.

I just don’t see Jrue staying after next year with where we are at today. Don’t gamble the assets we do have… it’s not yet time for that.

Then you trade for *him and kick ***

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Yeah, you don't do the deal if you don't think you can sell Jrue on staying in Utah for a couple of years, but it's also not like there are a lot of contenders with space to sign him in free agency either. I think he very likely looks to sign an extension with whatever team trades for him, unless he absolutely hates it there.

At 33 with a player option you definitely talk it over with him before making the commitment. Even if he agrees to help facilitate a sign and trade or if he agrees to opt in as part of the deal… you’d need to get some assurances there. He isn’t extension eligible until after the trade deadline… so if it seems like he wants out you might be able to get back roughly what you spent. If he tells us no he won’t extend and he will opt out to go somewhere else… then you probably have to pass. I think as a family man he’d likely love it… I’ve heard the Jazz are amazing accommodating players families.

 

[underdog]

At 33 with a player option you definitely talk it over with him before making the commitment. Even if he agrees to help facilitate a sign and trade or if he agrees to opt in as part of the deal… you’d need to get some assurances there. He isn’t extension eligible until after the trade deadline… so if it seems like he wants out you might be able to get back roughly what you spent. If he tells us no he won’t extend and he will opt out to go somewhere else… then you probably have to pass. I think as a family man he’d likely love it… I’ve heard the Jazz are amazing accommodating players families.

Exactly. You need to get those assurances before you do anything. And that’s the hardest part because we have competition. Danny needs to pull a rabbit out of his hat. But damn I would love to see Jrue in a Jazz jersey in the season opener.

 

[Pinhead]

Then you trade him and kick ***

Is he even allowed to sign an extension with us in the time period we’d have him before the trade deadline?

He is desired by other teams who will likewise give him as much money as we would. Why does he pick Utah?

Did you like the Hayward situation so much you’d do it again?

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Is he even allowed to sign an extension with us in the time period we’d have him before the trade deadline?

He is desired by other teams who will likewise give him as much money as we would. Why does he pick Utah?

Did you like the Hayward situation so much you’d do it again?

I meant to say trade for him and kick ***

You got to put yourself out there and sometimes get hurt. You cant just be terrified of every expiring contract.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Kind of surprised a Jrue deal hasnt happened yet

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Jrue going to come here and realize Lauri is a monster and Utah has a ridiculous amount of assets to put an amazing team around him and Lauri.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Is he even allowed to sign an extension with us in the time period we’d have him before the trade deadline?

He is desired by other teams who will likewise give him as much money as we would. Why does he pick Utah?

Did you like the Hayward situation so much you’d do it again?

I think in Feb he is extension eligible. Luckily for him to get to a contender he'd likely need our cooperation so could do an opt in and trade. Likely getting 50% of what we spent in that scenario. I think if we do a deal for him he will have given some verbal assurance that he'd stick around or at least work with us.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Kind of surprised a Jrue deal hasnt happened yet

It will happen before Monday is my guess.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Jrue is extension eligible Feb 13… trade deadline was Feb 9 last year. So you could get a deal to the goal line and if he isn’t feeling it you move him. Unless he gets hurt… in which case he might opt in anyway.

I think we’d be shocked at how good we could be if we pulled it off. We’d have two top 30 guys who are both two way players and some other high quality parts… with a great coach. The roster would instantly make just so much more sense.

 

[underdog]

I think in Feb he is extension eligible. Luckily for him to get to a contender he'd likely need our cooperation so could do an opt in and trade. Likely getting 50% of what we spent in that scenario. I think if we do a deal for him he will have given some verbal assurance that he'd stick around or at least work with us.

I thought he can't get extended until the end of the season. Not sure though.