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Game Thread Nov 02, 2023 07:00PM MT: Jazz vs. Magic

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Saint Cy of JFC said:
The play is run for everyone. There's multiple options, it's whoever gets open
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You arent getting it. We had a rookie chillin on the bemch cold. He was brought in for the game winning shot with 1.3 seconds left. Thats an odd one. Would make more sense to pit clarkson in the spot that coach put keyonte in. Have KO throw that bad pass for clarkson rather than the rookie fresh off the bench who had never been in that situation before.


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str8line said:
Actually that pass looked pretty good. I don't think Key was ready for KO's magic.
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fishonjazz said:
You arent getting it. We had a rookie chillin on the bemch cold. He was brought in for the game winning shot with 1.3 seconds left. Thats an odd one. Would make more sense to pit clarkson in the spot that coach put keyonte in. Have KO throw that bad pass for clarkson rather than the rookie fresh off the bench who had never been in that situation before.


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Keyonte has the quickest shot on the team. These dudes are pros, they can shoot cold
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Keyonte couldn't even run to the ball properly to get a shot off one play later
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Ya. Weird that keyonte was the go to guy for that last shot.
I wonder if clarkson could have run to the ball properly and got a shot off


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Zombie said:
Chances are just about every player misses this shot more than they make it. It’s not like THT is absolutely hopeless on catch and shoot wide open threes.
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Nah. I think most nba players are good at making wide ooen threes. Hell, im good at making wide open threes. Nba players are way way better shooters than me.



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Elizah Huge said:
Rewatching the missed 3 by THT he really had enough time to drive it and try to score there was about 4 seconds left when he caught it. We were only down 1.
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Ya but he was wide open. I have no problem with him shooting that and i think clarkson made the right play. Sucks that he missed though and sucks it wasnt a better shooter taking the shot. Oh well


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Saint Cy of JFC said:
Keyonte has the quickest shot on the team. These dudes are pros, they can shoot cold
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Do you think its common for a coach to bring a rookie off the bench for the game winning shot who has never been in that situation before? I think this is just one of those times where you are just arguing to argue and dont really believe what you are arguing.


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Lauri was feeling it at the end of the game.
I would have probably inbounded to him on that final play. Take advantage of his height (don't need a bounce pass) and have him catch and turn and shoot. I have seen him make a lot of tough shots over defenders who were all over him. He would definitely be defended tightly but I still like him taking a contested shot. If they guard him too tight then he can send us to overtime from the free throw line.
In the end it was a desperation shot with 1.3 seconds left so it probably wasn't going in no matter who was shooting it. Just seems weird to have a rookie come off the bench for the shot. And we saw the result. Maybe KO hasn't inbounded the ball to keynote in situations like that very often (probably never).

At least it shows how much Hardy trusts and likes keyonte I guess though and that's a good thing. Maybe just being in there on the last play will give him more confidence.
Tough loss
 
I'm pissed we lost this game.

Hardy should have benched Clarkson.

No clue why Dunn gets 5 measly minutes when he's the only guard who is a solid defender.

The only exciting thing was watching Collins hit threes. Hopefully he's getting over all the **** he went through last season in Atlanta.
 
Rewatching the end.

First when we took the lead with Lauri's shot you need to put Kessler back in on that possession. The drove straight into the paint and made a fairly easy layup over Lauri and Olynyk. It was out of a timeout and would go right into another timeout so you can pull him out. He is our best paint defender and rebounder. I would rather force them to kick it out to someone else for a 3 and risk the game that way than an easy layup.

2nd as usual the Jazz need to get the ball into Lauri's hands for the final 2 possessions. He wasnt guarded that tight the guys just didnt look for him much on the THT miss and didnt even set him up on the final one. He just made two big shots in a row, let him make a 3rd or try. But with that said the final shot wasnt that bad of a shot and THT barely missed a little long. But he had two guys closing out fast and could have pumped faked and drove in setting up and easy pass or maybe shot inside. The final inbounds play should be Lauri.

But mostly it was a miracle we were even in the game for the final shot with how badly Clarkson was especially that 4th quarter towards the end. Missed shots and turnovers left and right. I think he will turn it around but so far this season he is shooting most of his shots in the 4th on his worst %s at 29%.
 
Ron Mexico said:
First when we took the lead with Lauri's shot you need to put Kessler back in on that possession. The drove straight into the paint and made a fairly easy layup over Lauri and Olynyk. It was out of a timeout and would go right into another timeout so you can pull him out. He is our best paint defender and rebounder. I would rather force them to kick it out to someone else for a 3 and risk the game that way than an easy layup.
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Huh? Banchero went straight past Collins and scored. Nobody else was involved. That was some terrible 1-on-1 defense by John. You do not give a free layup in that situation.
 
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