Early pulse check on offseason expectations

[Fosto]

I just think the overwhelming majority of mvp talent has come from the top 10 or so picks historically. Mid first round may do it again Nash was around there. Kobe too. I just think if you are talking championship or bust you are going to be relying on an outlier event somewhere. So simply saying tanking doesn't work isn't right.

Loads of MVP talents were picked outside of top few picks. Two of the last 3 MVPs, Shai, Kawhi,Booker, Mitchell, Haliburton. Basically 50-50 whether a current top talent was picked in the top 10. But yeah, it stands to reason that the higher the pick, the better the chances.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Loads of MVP talents were picked outside of top few picks. Two of the last 3 MVPs, Shai, Kawhi,Booker, Mitchell, Haliburton. Basically 50-50 whether a current top talent was picked in the top 10. But yeah, it stands to reason that the higher the pick, the better the chances.

Yeah I was more focused on guys that have won mvp and also won a championship because of the tone of “tanking doesn’t work… show me teh ringz “

I think many of the guys mentioned are all nba talent but not quite mvp… they could be best player on a title team though.

 

[gomretat]

I’m genuinely pissed that Clarkson is still on the team

Clarkson has stayed in Utah for more than basketball reasons. He has an identity that is a big deal to Smith from an off the court image standpoint. As soon as Donny turned on the Jazz, Clarkson filled the space for Ryan. Many disagreed with me but I have stated multiple times that he was not going anywhere. I think Keynote may fill the bill and now he has gone to a BYU game with Mr and Mrs Smith. I think Clarkson is gone this summer but I would have been surprised any time before that.

 

[gomretat]

Holding on to Lauri and Sexton while staying in sell mode is a non starter. If they get the royal yank again I doubt they will stick around.

 

[rjfan]

Tanking also happens the way It does because less than a third of the league is actually capable of buying top level talent at free agency (while avoiding losing talent in Free Agency is tied to being viable enough of a contender, especially for those that ain't buyers).

So there's the draft and trades for all franchises, but like 6 of them (and tanking is where one hoards picks and players, given being competent at it).

 

[rjfan]

What I'm curious about team construction.

Keeping Clarkson and Collins (not expecting to raise their values losing more than not till the end of the season) and renegotiating and extending Markkanen at whatever his max would be, what's left of cap space ?

 

[LogGrad98]

They need to start using those ****ing "assets" and do something with them.

**** tanking, it's garbage and doesn't even work.

Unless you are San Antonio apparently. Hit the generational talent lottery 3 ****ing times. **** San Antonio.

 

[Flc]

The idea that Danny Ainge would ever feel like he "owes" something to Lauri is hilarious.

IMO Ainge knows he won't see a championship run with the Jazz. He's too old. He gets his late-stage kicks from playing the value hunting game, ****ing over other FO's in trades and hoarding picks.

This is, without a doubt, the stupidest ****ing post I’ve ever read on JazzFanz. Ever. Really, ever - no hyperbole.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

Unless you are San Antonio apparently. Hit the generational talent lottery 3 ****ing times. **** San Antonio.

Well the jazz hit two generational stars in back to back drafts in the middle of the first. Lol we just didn’t put anyone next to them.

 

[sip]

This is, without a doubt, the stupidest ****ing post I’ve ever read on JazzFanz. Ever. Really, ever - no hyperbole.

The guy is basically a professional troll. Hands down the most negative poster I have ever seen and just hope he isn't like that in real life otherwise he is ****ed.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

Damn

 

[Flc]

The guy is basically a professional troll. Hands down the most negative poster I have ever seen and just hope he isn't like that in real life otherwise he is ****ed.

Nah, I just call it like I see it. Anyone who has worked at any level in a professional business understands that there’s no way that the President of said company would be actively and deliberately undermining the success of that company.

Anyone thinking otherwise is inexperienced, immature, or, yes, an idiot. This isn’t Ancient Aliens: Jazz edition.