Jackpotting Around Podcast: Episode 13 - Listener Mailbag Edition

[Elizah Huge]

I'm not suggesting you were, if that's how I came across. Just speaking more to the general state of things when we were the closest we'd been in 25 years and we stepped back overestimating the probability of being able to just break even and get back to where we were.

Also, the idea that everyone was so averse to spending any more first round picks because of how it could cripple our franchise for a really long time. Do you front-load that or do it on the back-end? Because right now we've had two years out of the playoffs and looking at a lot more.

It didn’t come off that way that was more of my way of agreeing with you.

 

[Elizah Huge]

This is a frustration of a new owner with a Twitter-casual approach and an outside hire that didn't exactly exit on top of his last gig, not to mention should have been a mortal enemy of the franchise. This is part of a larger issue that I'll post about some time but it's tl;dr.

Yeah, Ainge was at the top of a lot of people’s hate list pre-hire.

 

[sip]

You guys are right and this has been on my mind recently. Look at how many times Denver flamed out in the playoffs but they eventually got over the hump and got a ring.

They got a ring because they have a player that is entering the top 10 of all time conversation. The same goes for the jazz when they had Stockton and Malone. Also the nugs didn't flame out in the playoffs. They made steady progress year after year as their young guys improved. The Jamal Murray injury threw a wrench into the equation for a few seasons but the progress overall was very steady.

17-18 season finished 9th in the west
18-19 season made it to the western conference semi finals
19-20 season made it to the western conference finals
20-21 lose Murray halfway through the season
21-22 Murray misses the entire season
22-23 Murray is back and they win nba championship

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Listened to the podcast. EH absolutely wiped the floor with HH in the argumentative side of the podcast. 100000000% right on Presti. He made the PG move because he had Russ there making it happen for him as an expert recruiter.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

And no, the OKC Thunder should not trade for Lauri. It's not the move that puts them over the top. The teams to beat in the West are still the Wolves and Nuggets and you need some legit beef, not two stretch bigs.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

If I was the Thunder I would actually be more interested in Walker Kessler, if he was available, than Lauri.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Listened to the podcast. EH absolutely wiped the floor with HH in the argumentative side of the podcast. 100000000% right on Presti. He made the PG move because he had Russ there making it happen for him as an expert recruiter.

This post is so beautiful it almost brought a tear to my eye.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Listened to the podcast. EH absolutely wiped the floor with HH in the argumentative side of the podcast. 100000000% right on Presti. He made the PG move because he had Russ there making it happen for him as an expert recruiter.

There are layers to that discussion but I'm pretty confident that Presti isn't afraid of big deals. I'm pretty confident that they got PG cuz it was the best offer out there.

Vic and Sabonis was not nothing at all. Vic was solid and improving. Sabonis was a lotto pick the year before. I mean Presti turned a declining Serge Ibaka into SGA and a billion clippers picks and got Vic, Sabonis, and PG's services during the process.

Does Presti make some bad big deals? Yup. Does he prefer getting picks in deals? Yup. Is he just lucky cuz a player was good at recruiting... stop. Dude is a good GM.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

There are layers to that discussion but I'm pretty confident that Presti isn't afraid of big deals. I'm pretty confident that they got PG cuz it was the best offer out there.

Vic and Sabonis was not nothing at all. Vic was solid and improving. Sabonis was a lotto pick the year before. I mean Presti turned a declining Serge Ibaka into SGA and a billion clippers picks and got Vic, Sabonis, and PG's services during the process.

Does Presti make some bad big deals? Yup. Does he prefer getting picks in deals? Yup. Is he just lucky cuz a player was good at recruiting... stop. Dude is a good GM.

Presti has done very little besides ride the wave of KD/Russ that is still giving (and draft well).

I've gone over in length before, but Presti has been on the right side of star demands a startling amount.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Presti could never pull off the mastery of the Gobert/Mitchell deals that DA did. I can guarantee that. Every big time trade Presti has pulled off has been at the behest of a star demand. Unless you want to call the Ibaka trade a big time trade, which I would but I accept its closeish

 

[Elizah Huge]

Presti could never pull off the mastery of the Gobert/Mitchell deals that DA did. I can guarantee that. Every big time trade Presti has pulled off has been at the behest of a star demand. Unless you want to call the Ibaka trade a big time trade, which I would but I accept its closeish

Big facts. He also turned the Serge Ibaka package into Paul George. Like of course he would do that it’s insane value at the time.

In no world should you be able to do that.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

lol you guys are right… he’s just super lucky a lot and was able to build two contenders in OKC based on dumb luck.