Jazz sign Svi Mykhailiuk for 4 years, $15 mil

[jazznik]

I think it’s as simple as they’re two solid vets with experience and work ethic that won’t require them playing a ton of minutes. You get that commitment, effort, example and hustle in practice, but don’t have to necessarily reward them with the playing time. Not sure that Samanic, Bazley, Yurt7 or Lofton actually bring that to the table. Plus, it gives you another $8 million or so in traceable contracts to maneuver with at the deadline.

This a is a supreme cope. You simply do not know if it's true and you are putting a theory that cannot be falsified. The same is true for "traceable contracts". The only reason why you reverted to that is because you cannot find any other (even remotely) plausible reason why the Jazz signed Eubanks and Svi and just inventing reasons on the fly relying on pure conjecture and the blind faith in the wisdom of the Jazz.

Eubanks and Svi are career average backups without any upside. It made sense for Boston and Phoenix to have them during the last season: they were both contenders who sunk the bulk of their payroll in a few stars and did not have any young players. It made zero sense for the Jazz - a bad team with tons of young projects - to sign them.

 

[Coach Ellis]

This a is a supreme cope. You simply do not know if it's true and you are putting a theory that cannot be falsified. The same is true for "traceable contracts". The only reason why you reverted to that is because you cannot find any other (even remotely) plausible reason why the Jazz signed Eubanks and Svi and just inventing reasons on the fly relying on pure conjecture and the blind faith in the wisdom of the Jazz.

Eubanks and Svi are career average backups without any upside. It made sense for Boston and Phoenix to have them during the last season: they were both contenders who sunk the bulk of their payroll in a few stars and did not have any young players. It made zero sense for the Jazz - a bad team with tons of young projects - to sign them.

Hahaha. I could give a **** why they decided to bring in two career backups who routinely are praised for their hustle and work ethic in limited roles. You’re right that I have no idea why they decided to sign them, but I would be very surprised if they brought them in to take minutes away from the young guys.

It feels like low cost, low risk culture based moves. It’s not what I would’ve done, but it’s how they decided to spend their cap space. I doubt either guy is on the roster two years from now.

 

[HermanG]

This a is a supreme cope. You simply do not know if it's true and you are putting a theory that cannot be falsified. The same is true for "traceable contracts". The only reason why you reverted to that is because you cannot find any other (even remotely) plausible reason why the Jazz signed Eubanks and Svi and just inventing reasons on the fly relying on pure conjecture and the blind faith in the wisdom of the Jazz.

Eubanks and Svi are career average backups without any upside. It made sense for Boston and Phoenix to have them during the last season: they were both contenders who sunk the bulk of their payroll in a few stars and did not have any young players. It made zero sense for the Jazz - a bad team with tons of young projects - to sign them.

Stop it. You are making yourself look like an absolute idiot by saying "it makes zero sense".

Like sure, you can prefer giving the young guys automatic minutes by bringing in some absolute trash vets... but whether they should get automatic uncontested minutes or not is a debatable topic at the very least. Whatever YOUR preference to fill the roster spots would have been, you have to acknowledge that bringing in perennial end of benchers to fulfill the roster requirements is absolutely standard practice.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

Like sure, you can prefer giving the young guys automatic minutes by bringing in some absolute trash vets... but whether they should get automatic uncontested minutes or not is a debatable topic at the very least.

So this is NOT going to be a 100% tanking season after all?

Help me out, I'm confused.

 

[HermanG]

So this is NOT going to be a 100% tanking season after all?

Help me out, I'm confused.

Its (hopefully) 100% youth development season and 80% tanking season I would say. I mean how could it even be 100% tanking season when they extend Lauri instead of trading him?

Svi and Eubanks are the type guys you put out there when someone deserves a moment in the doghouse.

With Eubanks its super easy to see. If Kessler and/or Flip plays soft then Hardy can put Eubanks out there to show how not to be soft. Svi I'm not that familiar with, but I would imagine he probably is a high effort and high motor guy who can show Cody and Hendricks that effort can beat talent.

 

[jazznik]

Stop it. You are making yourself look like an absolute idiot by saying "it makes zero sense".

Like sure, you can prefer giving the young guys automatic minutes by bringing in some absolute trash vets... but whether they should get automatic uncontested minutes or not is a debatable topic at the very least. Whatever YOUR preference to fill the roster spots would have been, you have to acknowledge that bringing in perennial end of benchers to fulfill the roster requirements is absolutely standard practice.

We are actually in agreement here: the conversation got spread out over several post and the point that I was making was that the signings of Swi and Eubanks make zero sense if the plan for the upcoming season is to go full tank or to use the season mostly for developing young players. It does make perfect sense if the Jazz intend to do repeat what they did in the last two seasons: try winning games by heavily playing veterans (and, later, possibly trading a couple of them). This strategy would get the Jazz the pick in the 8-10 range and most likely severely restrict the minutes played by Hendricks, Brice, Flip, Cody and Juzang. They would feast on the teams doing an actual tank: the rotation of Kessler, Collins, Lauri, Keyonte, Sexton, Eubanks, Clarkson, and Swi is too much for the Wizards or Pistons.

 

[homeytennis]

I have to admit that every morning I would run to the interwebs to see how these two did the night before. Nothing says electric like these two. These two guys are what Krysko calls pick setters, jersey grabbers and spacers. Every NBA team has them and they are necessary. The most interesting thing I would find on Eubanks is that he and Kris Dunn were signed to 10 day contracts by the Blazers at the same time a couple of years ago.

 

[HermanG]

We are actually in agreement here: the conversation got spread out over several post and the point that I was making was that signings of Swi and Eubanks make zero sense if the plan for the upcoming season is to go full tank or to use the season mostly for developing young players. It does make perfect sense if the Jazz intend to do exactly the same the did for the last two seasons: to try winning games by heavily playing veterans (and, later possibly trading a couple of them). That would get the Jazz to the pick in the 8-10 range and most likely severely restrict the minutes played by Hendricks, Brice, Flip, Cody and Juzang. They would feast on the teams doing an actual tank: the rotation of Kessler, Collins, Lauri, Keyonte, Sexton, Eubanks, Clarkson, and Swi is too much for the Wizards or Pistons.

I someone thought that we are just gonna play guys regardless of how they perform.. I dont buy that for a second.

But as we saw with Key last year Hardy isnt afraid to let them make mistakes out there.

 

[outerspacefan]

I someone thought that we are just gonna play guys regardless of how they perform.. I dont buy that for a second.

But as we saw with Key last year Hardy isnt afraid to let them make mistakes out there.

I assume performance will at least moderately impact playing time; would be odd otherwise, to say the least.
That said, Hardy's thing with George last season was a good tad beyond letting him make mistakes.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

I like this signing. Good shooter and more skilled than people realize

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I like this signing. Good shooter and more skilled than people realize

He's less skilled than people realize. He's more athletic than people realize

 

[default]

Meh