Kamala Harris for Pres

[Deleted member 365]

I agree, I was going to post the same thing. If you're here without express permission you're here illegally so nothing wrong with referring to someone as an illegal immigrant.

Except, Trump isn’t referring to “illegal immigrants.” Why are you giving him the benefit here? What has Trump or Ricky in this case, done to deserve such credibility? Just yesterday Ricky posted that project 2025 wasn’t in Donald’s agenda. He’s gaslighting you. Why are you giving bad faith actors such credibility?

Trump has repeatedly said that he’s going to deport undocumented immigrants, asylum seekers, DREAMers, and political dissidents.

Deporting millions of immigrants, asylum seekers, and American citizens will cost us, bigly. Economically, socially, and morally. This is not how democratic countries act. Instead of focusing on deporting millions, why not focus on overhauling our immigration system? Hire more judges to hear asylum seekers’ cases, invest in workers’ visas, and streamline the process to immigrate? Immigrants give America an advantage over countries like China because of their labor, families, and ideas.

 

[str8line]

Except, Trump isn’t referring to “illegal immigrants.” Why are you giving him the benefit here? What has Trump or Ricky in this case, done to deserve such credibility? Just yesterday Ricky posted that project 2025 wasn’t in Donald’s agenda. He’s gaslighting you. Why are you giving bad faith actors such credibility?

Trump has repeatedly said that he’s going to deport undocumented immigrants, asylum seekers, DREAMers, and political dissidents.

Deporting millions of immigrants, asylum seekers, and American citizens will cost us, bigly. Economically, socially, and morally. This is not how democratic countries act. Instead of focusing on deporting millions, why not focus on overhauling our immigration system? Hire more judges to hear asylum seekers’ cases, invest in workers’ visas, and streamline the process to immigrate? Immigrants give America an advantage over countries like China because of their labor, families, and ideas.

Ricky is either an idiot or a total Trumptard(same thing) if he believes that about Trump and Project 2025.

I'm not in favor of deporting those who are here already but immigrants should gain permission before entering the USA. We need to put more resources toward border control to make it equitable for those trying to move here and to allow us to filter who gets in. By far some of the best Americans are our immigrants and that's always been the case. My parents were both immigrants to the USA as adults and they were the most hard-working people I've ever known. I see it today too. We are incredibly fortunate to continue to attract so many great people who have such determination to make a better life for themselves and their families. I have zero doubt that in the long run these immigrants will make us better, as they always have.

 

[Bucknutz]

Also I’m going to bring up a point here with supermarket profit margins. Most food and drinks, like some health care, is not a necessity.

Chips, Soda, Ice cream, Coffee, Alcohol, ect are luxury items. These products are not required or nutritional for survival or a food necessity. Walking down Publix right now, most of the store is not necessity. 20% of this store is meat, fruit, pasta, vegetables, bread, dairy. There are more rows of alcohol than meat or dairy. The frozen section is made up of 10-15% of fruits and vegetables and the rest is frozen pizza, appetizers, treats and breakfast novelty items.

The idea that there is price gouging at supermarkets is not realistic. These stores are more like a luxury food market, not a food bank or a bishops warehouse. As much as I love Dr Pepper, the government has no right to set prices on it.

That’s what the market is for. I use to buy candy bars for .33. Now they are $2.69. I will never purchase these products anymore. Figure out a cheaper way to produce them and distribute them, then I might be back in the market for one standing in line.

First world problems… first world bitching.

 

[fishonjazz]

Also I’m going to bring up a point here with supermarket profit margins. Most food and drinks, like some health care, is not a necessity.

Chips, Soda, Ice cream, Coffee, Alcohol, ect are luxury items. These products are not required or nutritional for survival or a food necessity. Walking down Publix right now, most of the store is not necessity. 20% of this store is meat, fruit, pasta, vegetables, bread, dairy. There are more rows of alcohol than meat or dairy. The frozen section is made up of 10-15% of fruits and vegetables and the rest is frozen pizza, appetizers, treats and breakfast novelty items.

The idea that there is price gouging at supermarkets is not realistic. These stores are more like a luxury food market, not a food bank or a bishops warehouse. As much as I love Dr Pepper, the government has no right to set prices on it.

That’s what the market is for. I use to buy candy bars for .33. Now they are $2.69. I will never purchase these products anymore. Figure out a cheaper way to produce them and distribute them, then I might be back in the market for one standing in line.

First world problems… first world bitching.

So maybe don't allow price gouging on meat, fruit, pasta, vegetables, bread, dairy at least?
I'm down with that.

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[Deleted member 365]

Ricky is either an idiot or a total Trumptard(same thing) if he believes that about Trump and Project 2025.

I'm not in favor of deporting those who are here already but immigrants should gain permission before entering the USA. We need to put more resources toward border control to make it equitable for those trying to move here and to allow us to filter who gets in. By far some of the best Americans are our immigrants and that's always been the case. My parents were both immigrants to the USA as adults and they were the most hard-working people I've ever known. I see it today too. We are incredibly fortunate to continue to attract so many great people who have such determination to make a better life for themselves and their families. I have zero doubt that in the long run these immigrants will make us better, as they always have.

I agree. This is a good post.

 

[fishonjazz]

Ricky is either an idiot or a total Trumptard(same thing) if he believes that about Trump and Project 2025.

Ya people who don't think trump is tied to project 2025 probably also don't think trump did anything shady with Epstein.

I just saw an interview with trump and trump was being asked if he would declassify the files on the JFK assassination if he were president. Quickly answered yes he would. Asked if he would declassify the files on 911. Quickly answers yes. Was asked if he would declassify the Epstein files. He hesitates then says he would "but I think those files less so because you don't know, you don't want to effect people's lives if there's some phony stuff in there, cause there's a lot of phony stuff in that world but I think I would". The interviewer asks if trump thinks declassifying these things would restore trust and trump says "I don't know about Epstein so much as I do the others"

Then of course there is all of this smoke but I'm sure trump never did anything wrong with Epstein. Trump was just out there avoiding STD's in his own personal Vietnam like war. (Plus all the dozens and dozens of sexual assault accusations including a court loss for sexual assault)

You always gotta give good guys like trump the benefit of the doubt.


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[str8line]

So maybe don't allow price gouging on meat, fruit, pasta, vegetables, bread, dairy at least?
I'm down with that.

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Maybe that would incentivize those people who take up a seat and a half on the plane to eat something other than junk food... nah. Oh ****, I just opened up another can of worms.

 

[Al-O-Meter]

So maybe don't allow price gouging on meat, fruit, pasta, vegetables, bread, dairy at least?
I'm down with that.

You don't want people eating meat, fruit, pasta, vegetables, bread, and dairy?

Price controls invariably cause shortages in the commodity being price controlled

Price Controls - Econlib

Governments have been trying to set maximum or minimum prices since ancient times. The Old Testament prohibited interest on loans to fellow Israelites; medieval governments fixed the maximum price of bread; and in recent years, governments in the United States have fixed the price of gasoline...

www.econlib.org

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Price Controls: Still A Bad Idea

A market-distorting tactic brings both short- and long-term harm.

www.hoover.org

 

[fishonjazz]

You don't want people eating meat, fruit, pasta, vegetables, bread, and dairy?

If there was a shortage then that would mean people were eating those things though.
People not eating them would cause a surplus.

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[Deleted member 365]

Anyone wanna take a swing at this? How about those conservative posters on here who are up in arms over Harris’s proposals?


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[Al-O-Meter]

If there was a shortage then that would mean people were eating those things though.
People not eating them would cause a surplus.

Yes. The demand would remain relatively unchanged. The term is "inelastic". Food demand is considered inelastic. Price controls serve to reduce supply, which when combined with inelastic demand results in empty store shelves. The economies with the most extreme price controls routinely fall into famine. It happened with China and the Great Leap Forward. It happened in Russia with the Holodomor. It happened recently in Venezuela with the "Maduro Diet".

Amazon.com

Price controls are bad news.

 

[fishonjazz]

Yes. The demand would remain relatively unchanged. The term is "inelastic". Food demand is considered inelastic. Price controls serve to reduce supply, which when combined with inelastic demand results in empty store shelves. The economies with the most extreme price controls routinely fall into famine. It happened with China and the Great Leap Forward. It happened in Russia with the Holodomor. It happened recently in Venezuela with the "Maduro Diet".

Amazon.com

Price controls are bad news.

Good point. We should encourage businesses to raise the price of these items super high and then there will be plenty of those items and people will still buy them cause they have to eat.

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