Gun Control vs School Shootings in Terms of Child Deaths

[Safetydan]

Another thing I was thinking about, how about an over-funded gun buy-back. Offer an insane amount to turn guns in. Like minimum $1k for a simple hunting rifle, bolt action, or something up to $5k for semi-autos like ARs. That is one problem with voluntary gun buy-backs is often you don't get anywhere near the value. I have 3 or 4 guns personally worth between $2500 and $10k. I am not turning those in for $500. But I have maybe 5 or 6 beyond that that are worth under $1k realistically. I would turn those in if the price were right.

@LogGrad98 over here just trying to get paid.

 

[LogGrad98]

Ya but then I sell my gun to the government for a move profit and go and buy 2 more with the extra money I made on that sale. Then rinse and repeat over and over.

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Caps and ****. Good for 1 day only. **** like that.

 

[LogGrad98]

Now do mass shootings and school shootings though. Which you said yourself is the place to start.

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Low-hanging fruit. Plus I'm obviously just spit-balling. Any spit-balls to throw or just shade?

 

[fishonjazz]

Low-hanging fruit. Plus I'm obviously just spit-balling. Any spit-balls to throw or just shade?

I think the AR's are the easiest to go after (it's been done before recently after all) and they seem to be the preferred gun to use for the psycho mass shooters so would start there

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[Rubashov]

I was thinking more along the line of the mass shootings which are making up more and more of the shooting deaths every year in America. Most of those are people dealing with some level of mental health issues. Many had been on or are even currently on medication, a couple were ex-military with PTSD issues, things like that. We can at least ferret out a few of those and bring the body count down.

Hey nothing is stopping all of it, but we gotta start somewhere.

Edit: this might also help curtail suicides to a point, which account for more than half of gun deaths annually in the US.

What the data says about gun deaths in the U.S.

While the number of gun deaths in the U.S. fell for the second consecutive year in 2023, it remained among the highest annual totals on record.

www.pewresearch.org

Another thing I was thinking about, how about an over-funded gun buy-back. Offer an insane amount to turn guns in. Like minimum $1k for a simple hunting rifle, bolt action, or something up to $5k for semi-autos like ARs. That is one problem with voluntary gun buy-backs is often you don't get anywhere near the value. I have 3 or 4 guns personally worth between $2500 and $10k. I am not turning those in for $500. But I have maybe 5 or 6 beyond that that are worth under $1k realistically. I would turn those in if the price were right.

An unintended consequence of our post Port Arthur gun laws was a drastic reduction in rural youth suicide (mostly young men) So many good things happen when you remove guns from society.

 

[Rubashov]

And the whole thing going after "assault rifles" is virtually meaningless in curtailing gun violence. All rifles make up 3% of gun deaths, of which "AR"s are only a portion. Handguns make up 59%. That is where we need the most focus. I know of the dozen or so guns I own, only 5 are rifles or shotguns. The rest are handguns of varying sorts. I would be willing to part with all of my handguns, except 3, if the buy-back were right. Maybe even 2 of those 3. 1 of them is a collector piece I inherited from my grandfather.

Which types of firearms are most commonly used in gun murders in the U.S.?​

In 2020, the most recent year for which the FBI has published data, handguns were involved in 59% of the 13,620 U.S. gun murders and non-negligent manslaughters for which data is available. Rifles – the category that includes guns sometimes referred to as “assault weapons” – were involved in 3% of firearm murders. Shotguns were involved in 1%. The remainder of gun homicides and non-negligent manslaughters (36%) involved other kinds of firearms or those classified as “type not stated.”

Short arm ownership is incredibly difficult in Australia, to maintain a licence, even if you work as a licenced guard in cash transit requires you to shoot competitively. (I think a minimum of 4 competitions a year?) As an example, myself as a licenced guard of 20 years, cannot simply do a course to become an armed guard, (the licence requirement has already been met in my previous training) I have to obtain and maintain a short arm licence. Now the money in this industry is **** unless you are doing high risk plain clothes work and the firearm itself is often the objective of any robbery, a stolen handgun is worth over 20 to 30k on the black market.

 

[Rubashov]

I think the AR's are the easiest to go after (it's been done before recently after all) and they seem to be the preferred gun to use for the psycho mass shooters so would start there

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Honestly what civilian has any genuine use of an AR platform? Fire suppression isn't part of deer hunting! What's next? Duck shooting with an 88mm Flak gun?

Take that you duck bastard!!!

 

[Safetydan]

The most embarrassing thing is that even with all of these guns lying about, we can't seem to medal in any of the shooting competitions at the Olympics. Like, what are we even doing?

 

[Safetydan]

The most embarrassing thing is that even with all of these guns lying about, We can't seem to medal in any of the shooting competitions at the Olympics. Like, what are we even doing?

I'm wrong btw, we got five medals in Paris:

 

[Rubashov]

The most embarrassing thing is that even with all of these guns lying about, we can't seem to medal in any of the shooting competitions at the Olympics. Like, what are we even doing?

Need a high school based event, ****ing dominate that!