I dont think the average fan realizes how much stars sit in Utah vs every other team in the league. Dont move the goalpost.
Game Thread Oct 23, 2024 07:00PM MT: Memphis Grizzlies @ Utah Jazz
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I guess I don't see why it's important to suddenly start considering when it's been that way forever. Even if I didn't consider that the Jazz were better at home, why should I now think the Jazz are going to be better than I expected? The reason I think the Jazz are going to be bad is because of last season and last season the Jazz were playing in the same context as this year. I could have had no clue it was happening, but if I now know it's been this way, it shouldn't change my expectations. Whether you had considered it or not, it was already factored into the expectations.
I also don't see anyone feeling the need to constantly bring up that our players might actually be worse than they appear because they play half their games with extreme home court advantage.
Anyone think the Jazz would trade Sexton this year? He was in rumors about a year ago.
IMO, the rationale for keeping him is that you believe he has a chance to establish himself as a star. Having said that, it doesn't really seem the FO or coaching staff is very high on him. I think a lot of the league probably sees him as a 6th man and I would bet the Jazz are in that group based on his minutes/role.
If the Jazz only value him as a 6th man type and aren't even willing to give him the minutes/opportunity to prove he's more, they should have traded him already.
Yeah, but normally the Jazz hold out to get trade value back. At this point, I'm starting to think the Jazz would let go of Clarkson, Collins and maybe even Sexton fairly cheap.
Well, Clarkson and Collins would be gone if it didn't costs stuff to get rid of them.
If we keep Sexton around because Ainge wants to squeeze every bit of value possible (as he's done before) and not because we want to give him an opportunity to be more that is a mistake IMO.
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I tend to agree with you about the stars sitting thing but it would be nice to see some actual data/statistics.
Without those it's just a subjective "feels like" kinda thing.
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It's not subjective. It's been objectively proven. No, I do not feel like finding the sources for you, but thank you for proving my point as you are a good representation of the average fan.
I've actually never seen anything about stars sitting more often, but the "why" doesn't matter so much. Long history of the Jazz having one of the better home court advantages due to elevation and travel. It would follow that players don't want to play here as much....just something that makes sense but I don't actually think there is any source on that. I think the biggest factor in teams resting players is simply that the other team sucks, so we'll have that on top of the elevation and travel stuff. None of these things are independent of each other.
But again, doesn't really matter why we have the big home court advantage, the fact is that we do have it and have always had it. To @fishonjazz 's point, JJJ has been out for some time. I don't think it is related to UTA whatsoever.
But again, doesn't really matter why we have the big home court advantage, the fact is that we do have it and have always had it. To @fishonjazz 's point, JJJ has been out for some time. I don't think it is related to UTA whatsoever.
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One of the fans that believes that teams rest their players more against us?
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This is the closest thing I could find.
View: https://twitter.com/tomhaberstroh/status/1757751279441355115
I'm not paying for a random subscription to a writer I don't know. So I wouldn't take the stats as infallible, especially without knowing what the average number of star DNP is.