Trump Dictatorship and All Things Politics

[Deleted member 365]

Party with a prostitute who was on the young side?

Damn bro, you lost all credibility with me. Not only that. You're ****ing gross. Gross.

Get your ****ing head on straight and read that **** to the people in your life you respect. If it passes with them then **** the lot of you, there is no hope. But hopefully they steer you in a better direction as a person because you are bankrupt.

I'm putting you on ignore because I don't like normalizing child rape. You apparently approve of child rape depending on circumstances. I'm sure it was all the 17 year old prostitutes fault, right?

Gross man. Gross.

I honestly can't believe you just posted that. What a self-report. I feel sorry for any children close to you. If you have kids I think they should be taken away from you.

Gross.

Yikes. Yeah, he’s nasty. He’s probably the biggest troll remaining. I think if a few more of you place him on ignore and keep him ignored, he’ll leave the place to go bug others. He’s bored, living at home in his parents’ basement, and just tries to work people up. I placed him on ignore a long time ago and haven’t missed out on anything. Sometimes it sucks to go pages with only one or two visible posts from people responding to him. But ultimately, he adds nothing to my life or enjoyment of this website. Block and move on

 

[Deleted member 365]

Eh, maybe. But the fact that he uses plenty of setups for straight up trolling tells you that, at best, he's disingenuous and intellectually dishonest. Ergo, not worth engaging with.

This is 100 percent correct.

After seeing a few of these last posts, I clicked to see what everyone was up in arms about. Yikes. Disgusting posts. Some of the worst stuff I’ve seen here in a long time. I reported one of them but don’t think anything will happen.

Imagine on Christmas Eve posting garbage on this website. What a sad empty life. Want to know what I was doing on Christmas Eve? Eating a delicious meal with my family and extended from Texas, enjoying a nice fire and Christmas tree, playing with my two year old son and dog, and watching some good Christmas movies. The last thing I’d want to do is waste time on a message board to irritate people. And I doubt I’m that unique. I’m guessing most sane Americans were spending time with family on Christmas Eve rather than pissing people off on message boards.

He’s filth and the quicker we get rid of him, the better off this board will be

 

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Then you haven't read what I've written on that topic. I condemned it in no uncertain terms when Gaetz was first nominated.

Well, yes, I admit that may indeed be the case, “haven’t read what I’ve written”, that is, in fact, accurate, at least 95% of the time.

 

[Red]

This could certainly exist as a separate thread. The disappearance of moderate positions in the political life of Western nations. It’s come up before, in our political threads, the understanding that America’s drift rightward is not an isolated phenomenon.

Across the west, the centre right is collapsing – and with it, any notion of what is ‘too extreme’ | Owen Jones

So-called moderates are mimicking populist demagogues, with potentially disastrous consequences, says Guardian columnist Owen Jones

www.theguardian.com

“None of this is to be sentimental about the old centre right, which from the 1980s onwards increasingly offered sink-or-swim economics and military adventurism. It is to recognise that democratic norms are no longer in fashion, and the consensus over what is “too extreme” has collapsed.

On each side of the Atlantic, mainstream rightwingers – in politics and media – embrace positions they would previously have resisted. From naked bigotry to disinformation to treating opponents as dangerous national threats, the trend is clear. Where will it end? Here(Great Britain), there is no obvious answer, because the borders of the mainstream right are no longer policed. The tragic truth is that the western world may only get this out of its system when confronted with the consequences of such an ideology. A grim reckoning awaits us”.

 

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This could certainly exist as a separate thread. The disappearance of moderate positions in the political life of Western nations. It’s come up before, in our political threads, the understanding that America’s drift rightward is not an isolated phenomenon.

Across the west, the centre right is collapsing – and with it, any notion of what is ‘too extreme’ | Owen Jones

So-called moderates are mimicking populist demagogues, with potentially disastrous consequences, says Guardian columnist Owen Jones

www.theguardian.com

“None of this is to be sentimental about the old centre right, which from the 1980s onwards increasingly offered sink-or-swim economics and military adventurism. It is to recognise that democratic norms are no longer in fashion, and the consensus over what is “too extreme” has collapsed.

On each side of the Atlantic, mainstream rightwingers – in politics and media – embrace positions they would previously have resisted. From naked bigotry to disinformation to treating opponents as dangerous national threats, the trend is clear. Where will it end? Here(Great Britain), there is no obvious answer, because the borders of the mainstream right are no longer policed. The tragic truth is that the western world may only get this out of its system when confronted with the consequences of such an ideology. A grim reckoning awaits us”.

Claiming that moderate positions are disappearing is like being on an outbound ship and claiming the shore is disappearing. The secret of the last election is that Trump was the moderate. On nearly every issue, Trump moved to the moderate position. Lefties reacted by sailing off ever leftward to distance themselves and ended up alienating most of the country.

Take the issue of abortion, which lefties campaigned on heavily in this last election. For forever, the Republican position was to make abortion illegal. Trump got the GOP to drop that plank entirely from the platform. Trump supported the pro-choice position with limits and wanted to give the people the power to determine where the limits were on the state level. When Florida sought to enact a 6-week limit, Trump used his platform to condemn it as not enough time. He wanted more weeks. Trump’s stance was a moderate, centrist position.

Donald Trump says Florida’s 6-week abortion law is 'too short' • Louisiana Illuminator

Former President Donald Trump said Florida’s law banning most abortions after six weeks is “too short."

lailluminator.com

The democrats reacted by refusing to name any restriction on abortion, including birth. To drive that home, they put Tim Walz on the ticket, a governor who enacted rules under which there have already been eight “abortions” of babies after they were born. That is not a moderate, centrist position.

You can go issue after issue, and Trump’s positions are right in the middle. Lefties can’t see that because they only take in the cartooned Trump positions from their side’s propaganda, such as Trump wanting to enact a nationwide ban of abortion. Now after the election, many of the deluded are waking up to how they’ve been living on lies, and the ratings for the media outlets who pushed those falsehoods are cratering. If you are worried about the disappearing of the shore, you can turn the boat around to come back in. Those of us on the shore haven’t gone anywhere. We’re right where we were.

 

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Claiming that moderate positions are disappearing is like being on an outbound ship and claiming the shore is disappearing. The secret of the last election is that Trump was the moderate. On nearly every issue, Trump moved to the moderate position. Lefties reacted by sailing off ever leftward to distance themselves and ended up alienating most of the country.

Take the issue of abortion, which lefties campaigned on heavily in this last election. For forever, the Republican position was to make abortion illegal. Trump got the GOP to drop that plank entirely from the platform. Trump supported the pro-choice position with limits and wanted to give the people the power to determine where the limits were on the state level. When Florida sought to enact a 6-week limit, Trump used his platform to condemn it as not enough time. He wanted more weeks. Trump’s stance was a moderate, centrist position.

Donald Trump says Florida’s 6-week abortion law is 'too short' • Louisiana Illuminator

Former President Donald Trump said Florida’s law banning most abortions after six weeks is “too short."

lailluminator.com

The democrats reacted by refusing to name any restriction on abortion, including birth. To drive that home, they put Tim Walz on the ticket, a governor who enacted rules under which there have already been eight “abortions” of babies after they were born. That is not a moderate, centrist position.

You can go issue after issue, and Trump’s positions are right in the middle. Lefties can’t see that because they only take in the cartooned Trump positions from their side’s propaganda, such as Trump wanting to enact a nationwide ban of abortion. Now after the election, many of the deluded are waking up to how they’ve been living on lies, and the ratings for the media outlets who pushed those falsehoods are cratering. If you are worried about the disappearing of the shore, you can turn the boat around to come back in. Those of us on the shore haven’t gone anywhere. We’re right where we were.

Well, God willing, I’ll see what happens over the course of Trump’s term. I don’t care how you interpret Trump, that’s your business, and your right. Are Western nations drifting right, in large part due to immigration issues? Yes, I think so. Myself, I think in terms of migration triggered by climate change. The Himalayan glaciers are melting, and are the source of fresh water for many on the Indian subcontinent. Point being, if migration into Western nations is triggering so much anti-immigrant and rightward drift now, will it not get worse? I can’t tell you definitively, and I’ll likely be in my grave before it’s as bad as it may get, but it’s something I consider, and it is on the minds of some….

Climate change is already fueling global migration. The world isn't ready to meet people's changing needs, experts say

A report by the United Nations top body of climate scientists estimates that over the next 30 years, 143 million people will likely to be uprooted by rising seas, drought, searing temperatures and catastrophes caused or exacerbated by climate change.

www.pbs.org

Is the world ready for mass migration due to climate change?

With up to three billion people expected to be displaced by climate change by 2100, does there need to be a shift in the way we think about national borders, asks Gaia Vince?

www.bbc.com

https://www.zurich.com/media/magazine/2022/there-could-be-1-2-billion-climate-refugees-by-2050-here-s-what-you-need-to-know

 

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On each side of the Atlantic, mainstream rightwingers – in politics and media – embrace positions they would previously have resisted. From naked bigotry to disinformation to treating opponents as dangerous national threats, the trend is clear.

Examining the recent political changes, just in Europe, the above statement is accurate. And, here, in the United States, it’s also accurate. I really do not expect Trump to abandon disinformation, bald face lies, calling fellow citizens “the enemy within”, encouraging anger and hatred toward fellow citizens, etc, etc. And, from a Rightward perspective.

Claiming that moderate positions are disappearing is like being on an outbound ship and claiming the shore is disappearing.

I will stand by the preceding statement as a much more accurate picture of our present moment than what you come up with.

 

[Al-O-Meter]

I will stand by the preceding statement as a much more accurate picture of our present moment than what you come up with.

Of that I have no doubt. Data points such as the massive electorate shift among historically disadvantaged demographics toward support for Republicans and away from Democrats will be disregarded in the vein effort to cling to the idea of bigotry being the motivator instead of economic class being the dominant driver. Likewise the ratings collapse at outlets pushing the laughable idea of Biden being sharp as a tack, and Kamala polling ahead of Trump in Iowa as viewers get wise to distrustful sources.

All of the things you claim to hate are strongest in those standing around you. Threat to democracy? The left just cancelled and nullified a nomination vote with a result they didn't like. Authoritarianism? The left announced plans to kill the filibuster and "reform" the judicial branch to make it subservient as Joe Biden was boasting in speeches that rulings against him by the Supreme Court couldn't stop him. Biden is also handing out pardons like party favors to make his loyalists above the law. Bigotry? There is an entirely industry on the left pushing racial division and hatred.

The centrist position is to just want to go to work, make enough to live comfortably, and set their children up to do better than themselves. The candidate speaking to that economic-class concern won the election. I am not a registered Republican, but it spoke to me, and I am hopeful he can bring it about.

 

[Red]

Sure seems to be the case:









Quite the clown show….

 

[Al-O-Meter]

Quite the clown show….

It is sensible centrist government. Trump's position has long been to be in favor of immigration but he wanted it done legally. The H1B visa is legal immigration. Most Americans support legal immigration. Elon Musk is voicing Trump's position on legal immigration.

Exclusive | Trump supports immigration visas backed by Musk: ‘I have many H-1B visas on my properties’

“I’ve always liked the visas, I have always been in favor of the visas. That’s why we have them,” Trump said referring to the H-1B program.

nypost.com

The idea that Trump was a xenophobe opposed to immigrants was another instance of the cartoon propaganda spewed by the now dying lefty outlets. The outrage among some on the right is not different from the outrage from the pro-lifers when Trump made clear he personally thought 6 weeks was not enough time. The flack coming from the right is proof of Trump's moderate centrism. We elected the moderate centrist. Claiming flack from the right is proof our government is falling is ridiculous.

As a big 'L' Libertarian, I do not support Musk demonitizing voices in the modern town square if that is indeed what he has done. I'm just not sure that is what he's done. His explanation that Twitter/X algorithmically deboosts the fringes automatically and Twitter/X's aggregate userbase interaction with Laura Loomer's content triggered the effects to her account's reach does make sense even if I don't necessarily like that either.

 

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Whatever gets the base worked up….As for Trump’s response, yeah, whatever gets the base all worked up….


View: https://x.com/DecodingFoxNews/status/1874590722265166172

 

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Whatever gets the base worked up….As for Trump’s response, yeah, whatever gets the base all worked up….


View: https://x.com/DecodingFoxNews/status/1874590722265166172

Are you sure you want to make this political? The driver of the EV truck capable of murdering without contributing to global warming was a lefty. In Texas, his voter registration was independent but in South Carolina, where he lived before moving to Texas, he registered Democrat.

There was also an incident of a Cybertruck with a bomb being detonated in front of Trump Hotel. I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that might also have been a perpetrator whose politics are left of center.