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The MAGA movement has one very large, very real problem. There is nobody to replace the God Emperor. In fact, there can't be. That's the whole point of God Emperors.

Too much time has passed since Trump's first term. He is now a very old, very sick man. When he dies – which may happen within a few years, or tomorrow – this whole clown show will start to collapse. None of Trump's lackeys have anywhere near the charisma or personality needed to run the show in his stead and speak to the faithul in their own language. Vance? Musk? Don't make me laugh.

All those guys are awkward, annoying dorks and geeks from elite universities, the type of people the typical MAGA cultist used to enjoy torturing in high school. They are tolerated now because Big Daddy is still there, making them seem powerful by association, but once he goes... the sudden smell of weakness will be impossible to ignore. People will turn their backs and scatter.

MAGA will survive for a while like a snake with its head cut off, but it's a pointless existence.

That's the problem with personal cults. They're personal.
 
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Tremendous Upside said:
The MAGA movement has one very large, very real problem. There is nobody to replace the God Emperor. In fact, there can't be. That's the whole point of God Emperors.

Too much time has passed since Trump's first term. He is now a very old, very sick man. When he dies – which may happen within a few years, or tomorrow – this whole clown show will start to collapse. None of Trump's lackeys have anywhere near the charisma or personality needed to run the show in his stead and speak to the faithul in their own language. Vance? Musk? Don't make me laugh.

All those guys are awkward, annoying dorks and geeks from elite universities, the type of people the typical MAGA cultist used to enjoy torturing in high school. They are tolerated now because Big Daddy is still there, making them seem powerful by association, but once he goes... the sudden smell of weakness will be impossible to ignore. People will turn their backs and scatter.

MAGA will survive for a while like a snake with its head cut off, but it's a meaningless existence.

That's the problem with personal cults. They're personal.
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You mean MAGA will have to find someone that people will like and are willing to vote for? That's a strange idea coming from a bluanon cultist.
Should MAGA try the left strategy of installing an unpopular moron that nobody likes and expect its cult followers to vote for her like they did with Harris? Who's is a cult if you're worried about MAGA finding someone people are willing to vote for, when you'll vote for whoever you're told "blue no matter who"... dummies.

Do you really want to compare realistic candidates from MAGA vs realistic democrat candidates? Mark Cuban?? haha

Tulsi, JD, or RFK would destroy any candidate coming from the dying dems. The democratic party is brain dead like its last puppet leader. It's got the death rattle. AOC and Harris are nothing more than a gurgling sound coming from a dead body.
 
Based on recent development, If anyone still strongly supports current Trump cult, you support Putin and unstable world order.

IMO all HC Trumpists should be banned from this forum based on the latest development. If Trump is not advocating democracy and REAL freedom of speech, why should we allow these bitches be spewing their crap out here?
 
Mongoose said:
You mean MAGA will have to find someone that people will like and are willing to vote for? That's a strange idea coming from a bluanon cultist.
Should MAGA try the left strategy of installing an unpopular moron that nobody likes and expect its cult followers to vote for her like they did with Harris? Who's is a cult if you're worried about MAGA finding someone people are willing to vote for, when you'll vote for whoever you're told "blue no matter who"... dummies.

Do you really want to compare realistic candidates from MAGA vs realistic democrat candidates? Mark Cuban?? haha

Tulsi, JD, or RFK would destroy any candidate coming from the dying dems. The democratic party is brain dead like its last puppet leader. It's got the death rattle. AOC and Harris are nothing more than a gurgling sound coming from a dead.
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You are assuming the next four years are going to go well. lol
 
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You are assuming the next four years are going to go well. lol
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So are you pretending the last four years were a success? It’s been a complete disaster for democrats as indicated by the recent election. What are you especially proud of over the last 4 years?
Brain dead president?
Terrible VP and presidential candidate that nobody wanted or voted for?
Authoritarian policies?
Lies upon lies about Covid?
Media meltdowns?
Inability to move on from Trump?
Assassination attempts on political opponents?
Lawfair against political opponents?
Making Trump more popular than ever?
Pushing Tulsi out of the party?
Pushing RFK out of the party?
Cheney endorsements?
Becoming closer to WWIII and nuclear annihilation?
Maui fires?
California fires?
NC disaster response?
Men in woman’s sports?
Men in women’s restrooms?
Mental and physical health crisis?
Fentanyl deaths?
Open borders?
I could go on but I’m wondering what you are especially proud of?
 
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So are you pretending the last four years were a success? It’s been a complete disaster for democrats as indicated by the recent election. What are you especially proud of over the last 4 years?
Brain dead president?
Terrible VP and presidential candidate that nobody wanted or voted for?
Authoritarian policies?
Lies upon lies about Covid?
Media meltdowns?
Inability to move on from Trump?
Assassination attempts on political opponents?
Lawfair against political opponents?
Making Trump more popular than ever?
Pushing Tulsi out of the party?
Pushing RFK out of the party?
Cheney endorsements?
Becoming closer to WWIII and nuclear annihilation?
Maui fires?
California fires?
NC disaster response?
Men in woman’s sports?
Men in women’s restrooms?
Mental and physical health crisis?
Fentanyl deaths?
Open borders?
I could go on but I’m wondering what you are especially proud of?
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I am most proud of the fact that everyday wasn't a constitutional crisis. Isn't it amazing how low the bar is now?
 
Mongoose said:
Sure having a corrupt, brain dead, geriatric, demented, shell as president is what the founding fathers had in mind when they wrote the constitution.
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You don’t know Jack s*** about what the founding fathers had in mind. In general, MAGA is clueless in what the founders feared the most. Your knowledge of the founders and the constitution is abysmal….

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Civics 101: Keep Demagogues Out of Democracy

Political philosophers from the Greeks to the framers of the U.S. Constitution to Abraham Lincoln all warned of the mortal danger that demagogues pose to democracies. Vital to their understanding of that danger was their familiarity with Greek and Roman history and political philosophy. These...
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The preservation of a healthy constitutional democracy in the United States in the coming decades hinges critically on whether Americans heed a golden rule of this free form of government as taught throughout the ages by democracy experts like Plato, Aristotle, Thucydides, Livy, Edward Gibbon, Alexis de Tocqueville, Abraham Lincoln and especially the framers of the U.S. Constitution.

The golden rule is that demagogues destroy democracies. In their writings and speeches, these incisive political philosophers teach us that demagogues, especially those serving as heads of state, are to the body politic of democracy what cancer is to the human body. If the cancer is not kept out, or removed, it eviscerates critical organs and eventually kills the democracy.

The presidency of Donald J. Trump, culminating in the deadly assault on the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, is enlightening proof of the wisdom and relevancy of these teachings. Trump is a textbook example of a demagogue, and the lesson all Americans must take from his four years in the Oval Office is that no matter how much we may like a demagogue's disruptive style or policies, it is suicide for a democracy to elect, or reelect, this species of political actor to the highest office in the land.

The framers of the Constitution were the first Americans to understand this all-important principle of democracy, so much so that thwarting the rise of a demagogue was one of the primary motivations behind the Constitutional Convention of 1787.

Less than two weeks after the start of the convention, George Washington made this fact plain in a letter to the Marquis de Lafayette. In the letter, Washington explained that his crucial purpose in attending the emergency gathering of delegates in Philadelphia that summer was to prevent a demagogue from gaining power in the politically unstable young nation--and thus eroding constitutionalism and stripping Americans of their newly won rights, freedoms and liberties.

Washington described to Lafayette how he had recently been compelled out of retirement by an urgent risk to the United States. "Anarchy and confusion" were threatening the security of the American people and the rule of constitutional law. But, Washington wrote, there was a deeper risk than this. It was that the political chaos of those years created fertile ground for exploitation "by some aspiring demagogue who will not consult the interest of his country so much as his own ambitious views."

In a letter written three weeks later to David Stuart, a political colleague from Virginia, Washington reiterated the point, lamenting that the widespread distrust in the federal government under the Articles of Confederation had rendered "the situation of this great country weak, inefficient and disgraceful." In this letter, too, he concluded by warning about the destructive impact of "Demagogue(s) on the United States federal government…..
 
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Mongoose said:
Sure having a corrupt, brain dead, geriatric, demented, shell as president is what the founding fathers had in mind when they wrote the constitution.
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You should study American history more. You might learn something about your own nation….Again, you’re ignorant of the thoughts of the founders. It shows. Bigly.


If the Founding Fathers were alive today, they would tremble for the future of our republic.

Watching the rise of hyperpartisanship and populist demagogues in the United States and around the world would be their worst nightmare. And they would wonder: Can the citizens of today muster the personal and political virtue necessary to save our nation?

When they drafted the Constitution, the Founders’ greatest fear was that a populist demagogue would flatter the mob, subvert American democracy and establish authoritarian rule. “The only path to a subversion of the republican system of the Country is, by flattering the prejudices of the people, and exciting their jealousies and apprehensions, to throw affairs into confusion, and bring on civil commotion,” Alexander Hamilton wrote to George Washington in 1792. “When a man unprincipled in private life[,] desperate in his fortune, bold in his temper … is seen to mount the hobby horse of popularity … It may justly be suspected that his object is to throw things into confusion that he may ‘ride the storm and direct the whirlwind.’”

Thomas Jefferson agreed with Hamilton about very little, except for the danger of populist demagogues. After he read a draft of the Constitution, his main concern was that an unscrupulous candidate in the distant future might lose an election and refuse to leave office. “If once elected, and at a second or third election outvoted by one or two votes, he will pretend false votes, foul play, hold possession of the reins of government, be supported by the States voting for him,” Jefferson wrote to James Madison in 1787.

In the Founders’ view, the only thing standing between America and an authoritarian demagogue was the virtuous self-control of citizens who would find the wisdom to choose virtuous leaders. “I go on this great republican principle, that the people will have virtue and intelligence to select men of virtue and wisdom,” Madison said at the Constitutional Convention. “Is there no virtue among us? If there be not, we are in a wretched situation. No theoretical checks — no form of government can render us secure.”

When the Founders talked about the need for virtuous citizens and leaders, they were referring to the four classical virtues: prudence, temperance, fortitude and justice. (By contrast, the three theological virtues are faith, hope and charity.) Following the classical and Enlightenment moral philosophers, the Founders believed that personal self-government was necessary for political self-government. In their view, the key to a healthy republic begins with how we address our own flaws and commit to becoming better citizens over time.

In the Federalist Papers, Madison and Hamilton made clear that the Constitution was designed to foster deliberation so that citizens could avoid retreating into the angry mobs and partisan factions that demagogues can inflame. Ancient Athens had fallen because the demagogue Cleon had seduced the Athenian assembly into continuing the war with the Peloponnesian League; the Roman Republic had fallen because the people were corrupted by Caesar, who offered them luxury in exchange for liberty. Only by governing their selfish emotions as individuals could citizens avoid degenerating into selfish factions that threaten the common good.

The Founders believed that virtuous self-mastery was necessary for both personal and political happiness. Today, we think of happiness as the pursuit of pleasure. But classical and Enlightenment thinkers defined happiness as the pursuit of virtue — as being good rather than feelinggood. Just as individuals can use their powers of reason to achieve psychological happiness, so can groups of citizens use theirs to achieve political happiness.
 
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