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Following Potential 2025 Draftees

Handlogten's Heros said:
Like I am asking myself... why take Ace who has all the tools but might be like Rudy Gay or a guy like Kon that might be Bane type dude with a touch more size (less athleticism) who knows how to play basketball. We need guys that know how to play basketball and can shoot the effs out of it.
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This is stupid, but I am actively trying to dislike white players at this point because all of the players I like most are white. I don’t know what’s happening lately in the talent pool.
 
Ron Mexico said:
If it's only for the #1 pick that's an easy easy yes for me. I guess with a small caveat that he's okay coming here. Cooper seems great and could be really great, but chances are pretty low of him getting to his level. Plenty of people were pretty highly rated and didn't get there.

I think Giannis has at least 6 years of high level play. Him and Lauri would be a great duo plus a **** ton of picks and young decent players to expand.
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Giannis being unable to shoot a basketball from beyond more than a few feet is a serious complication in his ability to sustain his play.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
you sorta answered your own question: ace has all the tools. that also doesn't mean that ace couldn't be rudy gay (or worse) and that Kon might be Bane.

But Ace could also be KD-lite and Kon could be Nick Stauskas.

FTR, i've been a huge fan of Kon since i first saw him at duke this year. it was clear he knows how to play, he's not just a shooter, but a scorer, can pass and moves his feet extremely well defensively. but the reasons ace will go earlier the draft than Kon are pretty apparent.
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The Rudy Gay thing was like... if Ace figures it out but it never fires on all cylinders I guess. I just don't see KD-lite at all. He's young and could fill out pretty nicely tho. I like him but he's scary.

I saw Stauskas his rookie year in person up really close and was immediately like "yeah those twig legs aren't gonna do it". Kon is built like a brick (for good and bad). I don't know if I will have Kon top 4 but I'm questioning what I would do if I was sitting there. We do need to take a swing on finding the guy and Ace could be that so maybe it is too good of an opp to pass on.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/1j0gitz/giannis_antetokounmpo_has_been_elite_in_the/

In the 15-19 ft range where he takes 81% of his jumpshots, he's second in volume to Demar Derozan and shooting better than everyone other than Kevin Durant.
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Uhhh… yeah this seems like some weird stat cherry-picking ****.

70% of his shots are within ten feet. He shoots worse than 43% on shots outside 10 feet (this is perhaps as much an argument against midrange shots themselves as it is a criticism of Giannis’ relative efficiency in converting them).

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NUMBERICA said:
Uhhh… yeah this seems like some weird stat cherry-picking ****.

70% of his shots are within ten feet. He shoots worse than 43% on shots outside 10 feet.

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He has worked on his midrange game and has gotten a lot better. I am curious on how well it works in the playoffs. Its a thing.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
The Rudy Gay thing was like... if Ace figures it out but it never fires on all cylinders I guess. I just don't see KD-lite at all. He's young and could fill out pretty nicely tho. I like him but he's scary.

I saw Stauskas his rookie year in person up really close and was immediately like "yeah those twig legs aren't gonna do it". Kon is built like a brick (for good and bad). I don't know if I will have Kon top 4 but I'm questioning what I would do if I was sitting there. We do need to take a swing on finding the guy and Ace could be that so maybe it is too good of an opp to pass on.
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I’ve also started coming around on Kon but there is no scenario he cracks top-4 for me. The upside of Ace and VJ is too important (and Ace’s is higher/more sustainable than VJ’s IMO, though I find Ace’s weaknesses far more distasteful /rant).
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
He has worked on his midrange game and has gotten a lot better. I am curious on how well it works in the playoffs. Its a thing.
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Then I come back to my ancillary point: if 42.7% on a two-pointer is relatively good for the shot type, maybe it’s a terrible shot to be taking.

I love Giannis, I would trade a lot to get him, but I would not trade one of the bluest chips we’ve ever seen (and team control for 7+ years) for a 30-year old that’s reliant on outlier-athleticism to generate good shots (under a two-year contract).
 
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NUMBERICA said:
I’ve also started coming around on Kon but there is no scenario he cracks top-4 for me. The upside of Ace and VJ is too important (and Ace’s is higher/more sustainable than VJ’s IMO, though I find Ace’s weaknesses far more distasteful /rant).
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Maybe its just my coping mechanism if we land at 5 or 6 and get Kon lol.
 
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