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Saint Cy of JFC said:
I'm pretty low on McNeely but I should probably be higher. His stats don't look good because he had an off shooting year, but he's likely a great shooter. He gets to the FT line really well for a shooter and passes the ball well enough to be a good connective piece plus he has size plus he rebounds his position.
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I want to like him, esp. since he measured with Hayward size, but in the few games I've seen, he just didn't make his shots (and a little bit like Collier, though not as extreme, his misses were all over the place). But some of the general basketball sense to just fit in does seem to be there.
 
Tremendous Upside said:
Of all the games he's missed here, I'd say like 80% were bogus injuries where the team wanted him to sit due to an end-of-season dive or straight up tanking.
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I already posted about it: Lauri has always been very injury-prone, way before he came to the Jazz. Since he came into the league he missed more games than AD. He played 61 games in his only season with CLE, and before that when he was on the Bulls he played 68 games as a rookie (his highest number ever), and then 52, 50 and 51 games. Lauri is actually incredibly predictable and always misses 20-30 games per season.
 
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idiot said:
I want to like him, esp. since he measured with Hayward size, but in the few games I've seen, he just didn't make his shots (and a little bit like Collier, though not as extreme, his misses were all over the place). But some of the general basketball sense to just fit in does seem to be there.
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Shot 87% from the FT line on high volume. Nearly unheard of for someone to have that high FT% in college who doesn't go on to be a good shooter
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Shot 87% from the FT line on high volume. Nearly unheard of for someone to have that high FT% in college who doesn't go on to be a good shooter
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Also white guy named McNeeley... like people will close out to him no matter if it goes in or not. lol
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Shot 87% from the FT line on high volume. Nearly unheard of for someone to have that high FT% in college who doesn't go on to be a good shooter
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Delon Wright was like an 85% ft shooter in college, and I would consider him a below average shooter in the NBA. He might be the exception to the rule, but he came to mind almost immediately (although I am a big Ute fan).
 
SoberasHotRod said:
Delon Wright was like an 85% ft shooter in college, and I would consider him a below average shooter in the NBA. He might be the exception to the rule, but he came to mind almost immediately (although I am a big Ute fan).
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The other one that came to mind was Jimmer, but I had to look that one up. He was close to an 89% free throw shooter, but only shot an average 3pt% in the NBA.

I think the key here is probably wings that shot 80% ft% or higher in college and weren't good shooters in the NBA, and I can't think of any.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
The other one that came to mind was Jimmer, but I had to look that one up. He was close to an 89% free throw shooter, but only shot an average 3pt% in the NBA.

I think the key here is probably wings that shot 80% ft% or higher in college and weren't good shooters in the NBA, and I can't think of any.
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Nevermind, it took me like 2 minutes to find an example. Kyle Singler was a 6'9" SF out of Duke and shot 80% from the free throw line, but was only a 36% 3pt shooter in the NBA.
 
I'm kind of bored with pick 5 and I'm moving on to pick 21. I really want a defensive play maker at that pick and so I'm looking at Fleming, Yaxel, Philon, Beringer, Penda, and Philon.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
Delon Wright was like an 85% ft shooter in college, and I would consider him a below average shooter in the NBA. He might be the exception to the rule, but he came to mind almost immediately (although I am a big Ute fan).
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Checked it out. His senior year he shot 84% and 80% as a junior, so not quite the same as 87% as a Freshman.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
The other one that came to mind was Jimmer, but I had to look that one up. He was close to an 89% free throw shooter, but only shot an average 3pt% in the NBA.

I think the key here is probably wings that shot 80% ft% or higher in college and weren't good shooters in the NBA, and I can't think of any.
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Jimmer was because of his shot selection/difficulty.

And I didnt say 80%. I said 87%. I think there is a pretty big difference between the two. Pretty hard to find many prospects who shoot 87% on nearly 5 attempts per game as a Freshman.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
to give an idea, labaron philon was 6'4" in shoes with a wingspan of 6'6" and had the same standing reach. so he's a lot shorter, has shorter arms and had the same standing reach.
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alijah martin who was only 6'3" in shoes, had a 6'7" wingspan and had the same standing reach.

Kobe Sanders had nearly the same height and wingspan and had a standing reach of 8'7"
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So how did this dude get such a low number? It doesn't math. Cy said he flubbed it. What does that mean? How could you even flub it? Dont you just stand there and stick your arms up and get measured?
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Jimmer was because of his shot selection/difficulty.

And I didnt say 80%. I said 87%. I think there is a pretty big difference between the two. Pretty hard to find many prospects who shoot 87% on nearly 5 attempts per game as a Freshman.
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Ok, I don't really want to spend too much time looking things up to go against your larger point that I don't disagree with.

I've been saying McNeeley could be a top 5 shooter in this draft.
 
fishonjazz said:
So how did this dude get such a low number? It doesn't math. Cy said he flubbed it. What does that mean? How could you even flub it? Dont you just stand there and stick your arms up and get measured?
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Just stand up and raise your hand. Then try to stretch your shoulder and reach higher. It's going to be a good 2-3 inch difference.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Just stand up and raise your hand. Then try to stretch your shoulder and reach higher. It's going to be a good 2-3 inch difference.
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So this dude didn't stretch? Isn't he trying to make money in the nba by getting drafted? Wouldn't he know or even be coached on how to do a standing reach measurement? Hell it seems like the dude measuring him might even be like "bruh, you have to really stretch/reach more. You are doing this all wrong"
Weird.
 
fishonjazz said:
So this dude didn't stretch? Isn't he trying to make money in the nba by getting drafted? Wouldn't he know or even be coached on how to do a standing reach measurement? Hell it seems like the dude measuring him might even be like "bruh, you have to really stretch/reach more. You are doing this all wrong"
Weird.
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It's so when you do the max vert test your number looks higher.
 
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