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Sardines
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I'm slightly skeptical of this. There are obviously microphones nearby and we are looking at Trump from behind, so we can't see his mouth. In an age where AI can create this type of thing with ease I don't want to be the guy falling for it. I'd like to leave that to the MAGA boomer crowd.
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That Cohen guy is pretty good at vetting this stuff for the most part and considering Trump doesn't care what people think as he has said this stuff in the open before I'm ok taking this one at face value.
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Trump has said this type of stuff before during his first term. He says it here in the first 10 seconds. He’s an aspiring autocrat. But most voters either weren’t paying attention or didn’t care, as long as eggs or something.
View: https://youtu.be/7q7S0qhCzCA?feature=shared
Red
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Just saw that before logging on, and was going to post it myself.
As it turns out, for good reason. But a reason we missed.
I didn’t check into it, either, and in fact it can be taken at face value where the words themselves are concerned, but it happened 7 years ago.
Edit: my source was seeing it retweeted by the Lincoln Project, and I assumed it was good…
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Sardines
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I'm extraordinarily surprised by this. I'd honestly rather this NOT be true. No election in the U.S. will ever be trusted again if this is proven out and it will only solidify the idea that the 2020 election was similarly tampered with.
Red
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“No Kings” was the biggest protest in US history. 4-6 million people.
That’s 1-2% of the population of the country.
Anybody think MAGA could bring out that many people in support of Trump? If you have to think about that, you’re in MAGA, lol, silly trolls.
The “No Kings” protests in every state may have been the biggest day of demonstrations in American history, a data analyst has suggested.
“Based on hundreds of crowd-sourced records of No Kings Day event turnout, and extrapolating for the cities where we don’t have data yet, it looks like roughly 4-6m people protested Trump across the U.S. yesterday,” independent data journalist G Elliott posted to X Sunday.
For reference, that’d mean Saturday’s demonstrations featured 1-2 percent of the total population of 340 million taking to the streets in more than 2,000 cities to voice their opposition to the increasingly authoritarian, far-right policies the president has pursued since assuming office for the second time.
In a full report on the figures from Saturday’s demonstrations, Morris added that mounting backlash against Trump’s second term has also witnessed “dramatically more protest activity” than during his first stint in the White House.
Since his inauguration in January, Trump’s administration has witnessed more than 15,000 protests and rallies, representing a threefold increase in the number of public demonstrations that had taken place by this point in 2017.
View: https://x.com/PoliticusSarah/status/1934359433812885825
That’s 1-2% of the population of the country.
Anybody think MAGA could bring out that many people in support of Trump? If you have to think about that, you’re in MAGA, lol, silly trolls.
The “No Kings” protests in every state may have been the biggest day of demonstrations in American history, a data analyst has suggested.
“Based on hundreds of crowd-sourced records of No Kings Day event turnout, and extrapolating for the cities where we don’t have data yet, it looks like roughly 4-6m people protested Trump across the U.S. yesterday,” independent data journalist G Elliott posted to X Sunday.
For reference, that’d mean Saturday’s demonstrations featured 1-2 percent of the total population of 340 million taking to the streets in more than 2,000 cities to voice their opposition to the increasingly authoritarian, far-right policies the president has pursued since assuming office for the second time.
In a full report on the figures from Saturday’s demonstrations, Morris added that mounting backlash against Trump’s second term has also witnessed “dramatically more protest activity” than during his first stint in the White House.
Since his inauguration in January, Trump’s administration has witnessed more than 15,000 protests and rallies, representing a threefold increase in the number of public demonstrations that had taken place by this point in 2017.
View: https://x.com/PoliticusSarah/status/1934359433812885825
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Poor MAGA. Things just didn’t go their way on Saturday…flailing…
www.salon.com
Since the tragic events in Minnesota on early Saturday morning that left two dead and two others in critical condition, state authorities have painted a clear picture of what Vance Boelter, 57, is accused of doing. They say Boelter murdered former Minnesota House Speaker Melissa Hortman and her husband Mark, and also shot State Sen. John Hoffman and his wife Yvette. Gov. Tim Walz, D-Minn., called the shootings "a politically motivated assassination" targeting Democrats. Police recovered a list of around 70 potential targets, including politicians, community leaders and abortion providers. All the listed politicians were Democrats. According to the New York Times, Boelter's roommate and longtime friend says the suspected shooter voted for Donald Trump. Boelter's online activities show he is a right-wing Christian who opposes abortion and denies that LGBTQ identities are real. While we don't yet have the text of the manifesto Boelter left behind, it's fairly obvious what's likely to be in it.
Despite these facts, it didn't take long for MAGA forces online to snap into action with a false counter-narrative: that Boelter is a left-winger and Republicans are the real victims. Trump's traveling companion Laura Loomer falsely claimed Boelter "was friends with Walz" and was associated with the "No Kings" protests. "The organizers of NO KINGS and @GovTimWalz need to be detained by the FBI and interrogated," she demanded. Dating "guru"-turned-MAGA influencer Mike Cernovich also blamed Walz, claiming the governor had Hortman — who was actually Walz's friend — "executed" for voting one time with Republicans on a bill. "MORE DEMOCRAT TERR0RISM!" screamed Nick Sortor, a far right influencer with over a million followers on X. Glenn Beck, Breitbart and other far-right outlets went to work on Facebook, suggesting to their audiences that Walz was responsible for the shooting, even though he was on the list of Boelter's targets. Charlie Kirk of Turning Points USA blamed the shooting of Democratic lawmakers and their family members on anyone who objects to rising fascism.
Even by MAGA standards, the justifications for these leaps of logic are based on extremely thin gruel. First, the suspect had fliers for the "No Kings" demonstrations. Common sense tells us that's because he was probably considering an attack on the Democratic crowds turning out to protest Trump. That's also the conclusion the police swiftly arrived at, which is why they tried and failed to cancel protests in the area. (There was no violence at those protests, but there was a shooting at the Salt Lake City protest and car attacks at demonstrations in California and Virginia.) Second, Boelter had served for many years on a 41-member bipartisan business development board, and one of the various Minnesota governors who had rubber-stamped his appointment was Walz. There is no evidence that Walz has even met Boelter, but this tenuous connection was all the conspiracists needed to run with an elaborate story that the two men are co-conspirators in a plot to kill Republicans. The victims, in this telling, were basically Republicans — all because one of them once voted against her party on a single bill.
MAGA blames Democrats for Minnesota shooting
False counter-narratives signal to other terrorists that MAGA has their back
www.salon.com
Since the tragic events in Minnesota on early Saturday morning that left two dead and two others in critical condition, state authorities have painted a clear picture of what Vance Boelter, 57, is accused of doing. They say Boelter murdered former Minnesota House Speaker Melissa Hortman and her husband Mark, and also shot State Sen. John Hoffman and his wife Yvette. Gov. Tim Walz, D-Minn., called the shootings "a politically motivated assassination" targeting Democrats. Police recovered a list of around 70 potential targets, including politicians, community leaders and abortion providers. All the listed politicians were Democrats. According to the New York Times, Boelter's roommate and longtime friend says the suspected shooter voted for Donald Trump. Boelter's online activities show he is a right-wing Christian who opposes abortion and denies that LGBTQ identities are real. While we don't yet have the text of the manifesto Boelter left behind, it's fairly obvious what's likely to be in it.
Despite these facts, it didn't take long for MAGA forces online to snap into action with a false counter-narrative: that Boelter is a left-winger and Republicans are the real victims. Trump's traveling companion Laura Loomer falsely claimed Boelter "was friends with Walz" and was associated with the "No Kings" protests. "The organizers of NO KINGS and @GovTimWalz need to be detained by the FBI and interrogated," she demanded. Dating "guru"-turned-MAGA influencer Mike Cernovich also blamed Walz, claiming the governor had Hortman — who was actually Walz's friend — "executed" for voting one time with Republicans on a bill. "MORE DEMOCRAT TERR0RISM!" screamed Nick Sortor, a far right influencer with over a million followers on X. Glenn Beck, Breitbart and other far-right outlets went to work on Facebook, suggesting to their audiences that Walz was responsible for the shooting, even though he was on the list of Boelter's targets. Charlie Kirk of Turning Points USA blamed the shooting of Democratic lawmakers and their family members on anyone who objects to rising fascism.
Even by MAGA standards, the justifications for these leaps of logic are based on extremely thin gruel. First, the suspect had fliers for the "No Kings" demonstrations. Common sense tells us that's because he was probably considering an attack on the Democratic crowds turning out to protest Trump. That's also the conclusion the police swiftly arrived at, which is why they tried and failed to cancel protests in the area. (There was no violence at those protests, but there was a shooting at the Salt Lake City protest and car attacks at demonstrations in California and Virginia.) Second, Boelter had served for many years on a 41-member bipartisan business development board, and one of the various Minnesota governors who had rubber-stamped his appointment was Walz. There is no evidence that Walz has even met Boelter, but this tenuous connection was all the conspiracists needed to run with an elaborate story that the two men are co-conspirators in a plot to kill Republicans. The victims, in this telling, were basically Republicans — all because one of them once voted against her party on a single bill.
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The free world is walking away….
apnews.com
The world may be rethinking the American dream.
For centuries, people in other countries saw the United States as place of welcome and opportunity. Now, President Donald Trump’s drive for mass deportations of migrants is riling the streets of Los Angeles, college campuses, even churches — and fueling a global rethinking about the virtues and promise of coming to America.
“The message coming from Washington is that you are not welcome in the United States,” said Edwin van Rest, CEO of Studyportals, which tracks real-time searches by international students considering studying in other countries. Student interest in studying in America has dropped to its lowest level since the COVID-19 pandemic, it found. ”The fact is, there are great opportunities elsewhere.”
There has long been a romanticized notion about immigration and America. The reality has always been different, with race and ethnicity playing undeniable roles in the tension over who can be an American. The U.S. still beckons to the “huddled masses” from the pedestal of the Statue of Liberty. The strong economy has helped draw millions more every year, with the inflow driving the U.S. population over 340 million.
Early clues across industries — like tourism, trade, entertainmentand education — suggest the American dream is fading for foreigners who have historically flooded to the U.S.
Coming to America? In 2025, the US to some looks less like a dream and more like a place to avoid
For centuries, America has been a desired destination. But as the nation approaches its 250th birthday, under President Donald Trump it increasingly looks from afar like a place to reconsider — and perhaps avoid.
apnews.com
The world may be rethinking the American dream.
For centuries, people in other countries saw the United States as place of welcome and opportunity. Now, President Donald Trump’s drive for mass deportations of migrants is riling the streets of Los Angeles, college campuses, even churches — and fueling a global rethinking about the virtues and promise of coming to America.
“The message coming from Washington is that you are not welcome in the United States,” said Edwin van Rest, CEO of Studyportals, which tracks real-time searches by international students considering studying in other countries. Student interest in studying in America has dropped to its lowest level since the COVID-19 pandemic, it found. ”The fact is, there are great opportunities elsewhere.”
There has long been a romanticized notion about immigration and America. The reality has always been different, with race and ethnicity playing undeniable roles in the tension over who can be an American. The U.S. still beckons to the “huddled masses” from the pedestal of the Statue of Liberty. The strong economy has helped draw millions more every year, with the inflow driving the U.S. population over 340 million.
Early clues across industries — like tourism, trade, entertainmentand education — suggest the American dream is fading for foreigners who have historically flooded to the U.S.
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Trump orders ICE to exact vengeance against the big cities that held protests on “No Kings” day…
Donald Trump ordered ICE officers to prioritize deportations in Democrat-run cities in a wild Truth Social rant Sunday night.
The president issued the unprecedented, politically-motivated orders just hours after millions of protesters gathered in major American cities, calling for Trump’s megalomania to be curbed.
Trump told ICE staff to “do all in their power” to detain and deport undocumented immigrants in Los Angeles, Chicago and New York.
Protests in these cities—and many more Democrat-controlled districts—attracted millions of citizens on Saturday, dwarfing the crowd who attended Trump’s birthday parade in Washington, D.C
Unhinged lunacy from Donald Trump. But, unhinged lunacy is regarded as normal now…
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Our Nation’s ICE Officers have shown incredible strength, determination, and courage as they facilitate a very important mission, the largest Mass Deportation Operation of Illegal Aliens in History. Every day, the Brave Men and Women of ICE are subjected to violence, harassment, and even threats from Radical Democrat Politicians, but nothing will stop us from executing our mission, and fulfilling our Mandate to the American People. ICE Officers are herewith ordered, by notice of this TRUTH, to do all in their power to achieve the very important goal of delivering the single largest Mass Deportation Program in History.
In order to achieve this, we must expand efforts to detain and deport Illegal Aliens in America’s largest Cities, such as Los Angeles, Chicago, and New York, where Millions upon Millions of Illegal Aliens reside. These, and other such Cities, are the core of the Democrat Power Center, where they use Illegal Aliens to expand their Voter Base, cheat in Elections, and grow the Welfare State, robbing good paying Jobs and Benefits from Hardworking American Citizens. These Radical Left Democrats are sick of mind, hate our Country, and actually want to destroy our Inner Cities — And they are doing a good job of it! There is something wrong with them. That is why they believe in Open Borders, Transgender for Everybody, and Men playing in Women’s Sports — And that is why I want ICE, Border Patrol, and our Great and Patriotic Law Enforcement Officers, to FOCUS on our crime ridden and deadly Inner Cities, and those places where Sanctuary Cities play such a big role. You don’t hear about Sanctuary Cities in our Heartland!
I want our Brave ICE Officers to know that REAL Americans are cheering you on every day. The American People want our Cities, Schools, and Communities to be SAFE and FREE from Illegal Alien Crime, Conflict, and Chaos. That’s why I have directed my entire Administration to put every resource possible behind this effort, and reverse the tide of Mass Destruction Migration that has turned once Idyllic Towns into scenes of Third World Dystopia. Our Federal Government will continue to be focused on the REMIGRATION of Aliens to the places from where they came, and preventing the admission of ANYONE who undermines the domestic tranquility of the United States.
To ICE, FBI, DEA, ATF, the Patriots at Pentagon and the State Department, you have my unwavering support. Now go, GET THE JOB DONE! DJT
Donald Trump ordered ICE officers to prioritize deportations in Democrat-run cities in a wild Truth Social rant Sunday night.
The president issued the unprecedented, politically-motivated orders just hours after millions of protesters gathered in major American cities, calling for Trump’s megalomania to be curbed.
Trump told ICE staff to “do all in their power” to detain and deport undocumented immigrants in Los Angeles, Chicago and New York.
Protests in these cities—and many more Democrat-controlled districts—attracted millions of citizens on Saturday, dwarfing the crowd who attended Trump’s birthday parade in Washington, D.C
Unhinged lunacy from Donald Trump. But, unhinged lunacy is regarded as normal now…
Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
Our Nation’s ICE Officers have shown incredible strength, determination, and courage as they facilitate a very important mission, the largest Mass Deportation Operation of Illegal Aliens in History. Every day, the Brave Men and Women of ICE are subjected to violence, harassment, and even threats...
truthsocial.com
Our Nation’s ICE Officers have shown incredible strength, determination, and courage as they facilitate a very important mission, the largest Mass Deportation Operation of Illegal Aliens in History. Every day, the Brave Men and Women of ICE are subjected to violence, harassment, and even threats from Radical Democrat Politicians, but nothing will stop us from executing our mission, and fulfilling our Mandate to the American People. ICE Officers are herewith ordered, by notice of this TRUTH, to do all in their power to achieve the very important goal of delivering the single largest Mass Deportation Program in History.
In order to achieve this, we must expand efforts to detain and deport Illegal Aliens in America’s largest Cities, such as Los Angeles, Chicago, and New York, where Millions upon Millions of Illegal Aliens reside. These, and other such Cities, are the core of the Democrat Power Center, where they use Illegal Aliens to expand their Voter Base, cheat in Elections, and grow the Welfare State, robbing good paying Jobs and Benefits from Hardworking American Citizens. These Radical Left Democrats are sick of mind, hate our Country, and actually want to destroy our Inner Cities — And they are doing a good job of it! There is something wrong with them. That is why they believe in Open Borders, Transgender for Everybody, and Men playing in Women’s Sports — And that is why I want ICE, Border Patrol, and our Great and Patriotic Law Enforcement Officers, to FOCUS on our crime ridden and deadly Inner Cities, and those places where Sanctuary Cities play such a big role. You don’t hear about Sanctuary Cities in our Heartland!
I want our Brave ICE Officers to know that REAL Americans are cheering you on every day. The American People want our Cities, Schools, and Communities to be SAFE and FREE from Illegal Alien Crime, Conflict, and Chaos. That’s why I have directed my entire Administration to put every resource possible behind this effort, and reverse the tide of Mass Destruction Migration that has turned once Idyllic Towns into scenes of Third World Dystopia. Our Federal Government will continue to be focused on the REMIGRATION of Aliens to the places from where they came, and preventing the admission of ANYONE who undermines the domestic tranquility of the United States.
To ICE, FBI, DEA, ATF, the Patriots at Pentagon and the State Department, you have my unwavering support. Now go, GET THE JOB DONE! DJT
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Sad thing is that most MAGA cult members will eat this up. They love conspiracies and the idea that they, the majority in the country (as in white and "christian") are the ones being persecuted no matter what else happens. The guy could have shot a dozen black democrats, with tattoos all over his body stating "KILL THE N*****RS for TRUMP" and "I LOVE TRUMP AND HATE N*****RS" with pictures of himself at Trump rallies scattered all over his car and a manifesto outlining his plan to help Trump by killing all the black democrats he can, and media images of him shaking hands with the president and they would twist it somehow to show that he really wanted to kill honest law-abiding white "christian" republicans because Obama sent him in to do exactly that (thanks Obama!). And they would still believe it. I can tell you it is monumentally hard to break people away from their cult.Poor MAGA. Things just didn’t go their way on Saturday…flailing…
MAGA blames Democrats for Minnesota shooting
False counter-narratives signal to other terrorists that MAGA has their back
Since the tragic events in Minnesota on early Saturday morning that left two dead and two others in critical condition, state authorities have painted a clear picture of what Vance Boelter, 57, is accused of doing. They say Boelter murdered former Minnesota House Speaker Melissa Hortman and her husband Mark, and also shot State Sen. John Hoffman and his wife Yvette. Gov. Tim Walz, D-Minn., called the shootings "a politically motivated assassination" targeting Democrats. Police recovered a list of around 70 potential targets, including politicians, community leaders and abortion providers. All the listed politicians were Democrats. According to the New York Times, Boelter's roommate and longtime friend says the suspected shooter voted for Donald Trump. Boelter's online activities show he is a right-wing Christian who opposes abortion and denies that LGBTQ identities are real. While we don't yet have the text of the manifesto Boelter left behind, it's fairly obvious what's likely to be in it.
Despite these facts, it didn't take long for MAGA forces online to snap into action with a false counter-narrative: that Boelter is a left-winger and Republicans are the real victims. Trump's traveling companion Laura Loomer falsely claimed Boelter "was friends with Walz" and was associated with the "No Kings" protests. "The organizers of NO KINGS and @GovTimWalz need to be detained by the FBI and interrogated," she demanded. Dating "guru"-turned-MAGA influencer Mike Cernovich also blamed Walz, claiming the governor had Hortman — who was actually Walz's friend — "executed" for voting one time with Republicans on a bill. "MORE DEMOCRAT TERR0RISM!" screamed Nick Sortor, a far right influencer with over a million followers on X. Glenn Beck, Breitbart and other far-right outlets went to work on Facebook, suggesting to their audiences that Walz was responsible for the shooting, even though he was on the list of Boelter's targets. Charlie Kirk of Turning Points USA blamed the shooting of Democratic lawmakers and their family members on anyone who objects to rising fascism.
Even by MAGA standards, the justifications for these leaps of logic are based on extremely thin gruel. First, the suspect had fliers for the "No Kings" demonstrations. Common sense tells us that's because he was probably considering an attack on the Democratic crowds turning out to protest Trump. That's also the conclusion the police swiftly arrived at, which is why they tried and failed to cancel protests in the area. (There was no violence at those protests, but there was a shooting at the Salt Lake City protest and car attacks at demonstrations in California and Virginia.) Second, Boelter had served for many years on a 41-member bipartisan business development board, and one of the various Minnesota governors who had rubber-stamped his appointment was Walz. There is no evidence that Walz has even met Boelter, but this tenuous connection was all the conspiracists needed to run with an elaborate story that the two men are co-conspirators in a plot to kill Republicans. The victims, in this telling, were basically Republicans — all because one of them once voted against her party on a single bill.
Red
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Without a doubt. And the winners write the histories. That’s what makes reconciliation so difficult. Without a consensus judgement of Trump, based in the real world, and with the continuation of a MAGA movement via Vance and other Republicans for whom Trump’s key lesson has sunk in: “we can straight out lie ourselves into power. Creating an alternate reality is a key weapon in gaining and keeping power”, it will be so hard to find something to unify Americans in healthy ways, and overcome the Trumpian approach of capitalizing on fear, anger, and hatred. Trump has inspired many in his cult and party who now understand that approach.
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It seems Trump is accelerating one of the principle goals of Project 2025: destroy the non partisan, and merit-based American Civil Service:
President Donald Trump is accelerating efforts to transform the federal workforce from a nonpartisan, merit-based civil service to a system that values loyalty to the president and to push policies that allow the administration to more easily dismiss career employees, according to federal workers, public service experts and employment attorneys.
The ongoing shift would erase decades of precedent in which federal hiring, retention and promotion are designed to be based largely on skills and experience, the workers, experts and attorneys say.
The House-passed budget proposal under consideration in the Senate would give new federal workers an ultimatum to accept “at-will” status — meaning they could be more easily fired — or pay a higher retirement contribution. The administration also unveiled a plan to require job applicants to write short essays describing how they plan to advance Trump’s priorities. And Trump has revived his previous efforts to reclassify thousands of federal employees and blur the line between political appointees and career professionals.
“These employees could be replaced with partisan loyalists — people who will obey any order, regardless of the Constitution,” said Joe Spielberger, senior policy counsel at the Project on Government Oversight. “This elevates loyalty to an individual president over the oath of office and the best interests of the public.”
Many civil servants now fear the changes will further upend a workforce that has historically prized competence and neutrality. In interviews with 13 federal employees across seven agencies — almost all of whom spoke on the condition of anonymity out of concern for retaliation — workers described the transformation as a direct assault on the foundational principles of public service. They said the administration’s moves appear designed to hollow out a government staffed by experts and replace it with one filled by political allies.
President Donald Trump is accelerating efforts to transform the federal workforce from a nonpartisan, merit-based civil service to a system that values loyalty to the president and to push policies that allow the administration to more easily dismiss career employees, according to federal workers, public service experts and employment attorneys.
The ongoing shift would erase decades of precedent in which federal hiring, retention and promotion are designed to be based largely on skills and experience, the workers, experts and attorneys say.
The House-passed budget proposal under consideration in the Senate would give new federal workers an ultimatum to accept “at-will” status — meaning they could be more easily fired — or pay a higher retirement contribution. The administration also unveiled a plan to require job applicants to write short essays describing how they plan to advance Trump’s priorities. And Trump has revived his previous efforts to reclassify thousands of federal employees and blur the line between political appointees and career professionals.
“These employees could be replaced with partisan loyalists — people who will obey any order, regardless of the Constitution,” said Joe Spielberger, senior policy counsel at the Project on Government Oversight. “This elevates loyalty to an individual president over the oath of office and the best interests of the public.”
Many civil servants now fear the changes will further upend a workforce that has historically prized competence and neutrality. In interviews with 13 federal employees across seven agencies — almost all of whom spoke on the condition of anonymity out of concern for retaliation — workers described the transformation as a direct assault on the foundational principles of public service. They said the administration’s moves appear designed to hollow out a government staffed by experts and replace it with one filled by political allies.
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Frankly, social media and the ability to immediately disseminate fake news and misinformation will be the ultimate downfall of this nation. I will not be surprised at all if this ends in a civil war, and if it does Zuckerberg and Musk, et al, should be taken to account for war crimes leading up to and driving the populace to war, as were any propagandist in previous wars. It is no different.
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Well @Sardines, there ya go. Literally said the exact same thing verbatim. No need to wonder if he actually said it anymore