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Although, we're technically not done... but we'll go with day 1!

Ace: A
I am so glad the Fears potential was all smoke. I'm not saying Fears will be bad but getting Ace/Tre at 5 was a must. Ace has huge potential, explosion, great upside, and was labeled number 2 behind Cooper for a while.

Walter: B+
I watched a bunch of his March games. He was very clutch in a lot of them and was a huge reason they won it all. Excellent shooter that can get to his spot. We are extremely crowded at our guard position, I'd probably like him more on a different team but with his age and game, we'll be looking to give him a lot of run this season imo.
 
Overall I give it an A- .

While I'm a bit scared of missing on Ace, I'm so glad they made the pick. We took a swing to try and get a guy who could maybe be "the guy" and that's what I wanted most from this draft. A or A-

I probably would've stayed at 21 and seen who fell to that spot, but I think the Clayton trade and pick was really solid. He has a translatable NBA skill and with the moxy/clutch stuff maybe he becomes more than expected. There's obviously some overlap here with all are combo guards, but I'm not worried about that with a later pick. A- or B+
 
I'm very conflicted about this draft.

I'm not a huge fan of Ace, but I also don't know if I could have passed him up if I were the Jazz. I'm excited about his two way potential.

I love WCJ, but I just have this feeling that we passed on players who will eventually be better.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
I'm very conflicted about this draft.

I'm not a huge fan of Ace, but I also don't know if I could have passed him up if I were the Jazz. I'm excited about his two way potential.

I love WCJ, but I just have this feeling that we passed on players who will eventually be better.
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pretty much a copy-and-pasteable version of my thoughts.

Going forward, I'll remain on-the-fence until I see Ace in 30ish games. And I want to see the roster take shape before I allow myself to get even more confused about WCJ.
 
B.
I would have picked Tre and then stayed at 21 and kept our picks we traded and taken fleming but I had Ace as 1b (Tre 1a). I just feel really meh about Clayton in the first place and then add in the fact that we gave up 3 extra picks and there were guys available at 21 that I like a lot and it makes me not like that pick.

FWIW early on I had Ace as the #3 best pick in the draft and only moved him to 4 due to all the questions of his attitude.
 
Having the choice between Ace and Tre at #5 was the best outcome the Jazz could hope for, imo. Ace has bonafide star power, as much as anyone in the draft. I'd give this pick an 'A.'

I watched Walter Clayton in the tournament. He's a tough, fearless shotmaker who plays hard and with a lot of confidence. He's a culture setter. Obviously the Jazz had a lot of options with their 2nd pick, and there were a lot of solid players available to them. Given the Jazz's point guard situation, I might have gone with Traore, but it's clear that the Jazz care about shotmaking, and it's not clear they really want a traditional on-ball guard to lead the team. I'd give this a 'B+.'

Overall A.
 
Definitely went for the upside last night. Both Ace and WCJ will either be so good that they turn into perennial allstars(yep, WCJ too with his massive shot making upside) or so bad that they become basically unplayable when shots ain't falling.
 
An even A grade.

Ace is going to be a beast and I think his intensity will be a good thing - the team can use it. Dude can shoot, defend, is an athletic freak and his college coach talked about his work ethic and 'coachability'.

Like I said in another post Walter Clayton is our Jordan Clarkson replacement.
 
Ferguson_Mellochill said:
Having the choice between Ace and Tre at #5 was the best outcome the Jazz could hope for, imo. Ace has bonafide star power, as much as anyone in the draft. I'd give this pick an 'A.'

I watched Walter Clayton in the tournament. He's a tough, fearless shotmaker who plays hard and with a lot of confidence. He's a culture setter. Obviously the Jazz had a lot of options with their 2nd pick, and there were a lot of solid players available to them. Given the Jazz's point guard situation, I might have gone with Traore, but it's clear that the Jazz care about shotmaking, and it's not clear they really want a traditional on-ball guard to lead the team. I'd give this a 'B+.'

Overall A.
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I'm really happy that we got our pick between all 3 of Ace, Tre and Fears. I didn't want to second guess if we truly got the guy we wanted or if someone nabbed him before us. I think we got pretty much the perfect realistic run out of picks before us... I guess... if somehow VJ was there too it would have been even better, but this was not realistic to expect.

With all that said... Ace was 5 on my board in the same 3 to 6 tier so.... I love that pick. WCJ was my 10th prospect so I love that pick too. I think he's a real gamer and he's an exquisite shot maker from wide variety of situations. The versatility of his shot is really exciting. He's great off the bounce, he's great in iso, he's great on the catch, he's great in the PnR... He also seems like a really competitive player... something I felt like we were missing. I think there is a real chance he's one of the starting guards in the next great Jazz team.

With that said... I think A is very much deserved.
 
As of now I'm going to give it a B+. I have a feeling that Austin Ainge views these guys as possible foundation type of offensive pieces. If that is even remotely the case then it becomes very easy to fill out the roster with complimentary pieces when you have as much future draft capital as we do. I didn't watch a lot of Clayton film pre draft because I didn't think we would go with another small guard since we already had Key and Isaiah but I watched a ton last night and I loved what I saw. He could be pretty special offensively with the added spacing that he will see in the nba. I don't like the fact that if paired with Collier or Key we are small in the backcourt but this roster is still super fluid and things could change quickly with Austin running the show.
 
It's a B. You've got to go above and beyond to get an A (see Atlanta pulling a heist on New Orleans).

We grabbed the falling 'talent' and made a small move up to secure a vet guard we liked. Nice, but nothing spectacular.
 
For having the 5th pick, I'd give it an A. When I heard Konnipple called at 4, I thought: Yes! I'm really glad he was off the table and didn't tempt us. I wanted someone with more upside potential.

As far as Clayton's concerned, I'm done with Keyonte. In fact, I put him last on the list of guards on the roster. If Collier can figure out his shot, I think he's our PG of the future, but if not, it's nice to have an option there.
 
It's the best the league would let us get. So B-minus. Can't rate it too highly when the league decided the draft order anyway. So it was like getting the answers to half the test. Do you really get credit for that part? I guess so but I'll still stick with a B- for now. The trade up for a nondescript player with no real heavy appeal seems stupid to me. Oh no we need to waste a bunch of minor assets to get a guy drafted at 18. Screams "look at us, we know secret stuff you don't! We swing for the fences!" While realistically being a big nothing-burger.
 
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