Cy isn't pushing anything. Givony himself is saying ****. I listened to the interview. Ryan is good on the talking points / boilerplate.
Could the Jazz Milk Washington if The Ace Saga Sours?
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Cy isn't pushing anything. Givony himself is saying ****. I listened to the interview. Ryan is good on the talking points / boilerplate.
Jaanipoeg
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I mean I don't necessarily believe the reporting that Ace is "excited" to be here. Ownership and management of course are going to say that and Ace is at least not going to go on record trashing this situation. But I just need him to be excited to play in the NBA and we are the team that drafted him and have his rights.
Unless he's willing to torpedo his career earning potential, he'll be in a Jazz jersey on opening night. His agent may still try to play other games, but unless he's willing to push for disastrous advice there's just not much recourse.
Unless he's willing to torpedo his career earning potential, he'll be in a Jazz jersey on opening night. His agent may still try to play other games, but unless he's willing to push for disastrous advice there's just not much recourse.
Is anybody able to answer this?
I think it's all smoke and drama personally but just curious.
margodydek
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Jazz have his rights for the next 4 years. So, he would forfeit playing for years and collecting $40MM.
Shad
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Someone did answer it. No, they can't do that. The Jazz own the rights to Ace whether they sign or not.
Draft Rights
When a team selects a player in the NBA Draft, they gain that player's exclusive NBA rights. This means:
- No other NBA team can sign that player unless his rights are traded.
- The team holds those rights indefinitely if the player goes overseas or doesn’t sign right away (e.g., “draft-and-stash” internationals).
Yeah I was just looking this up myself but it's only for one year from what I'm reading.
Seems like if it's only one year players can create chaos
What if every player sat out the year and then decided where they wanted to go
Surely what the Agent wants come from Ace and Ace family’s directives, right?
Right What if every player on the planet decided they did not want to play in Utah
Shad
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Although that can and surely is true for the most part, there could also be agents that take advantage of players that may (or may not) come from anything. The agent may use 'their expertise" to try and get the most for their player and that may get the player on board.
On the flip side, look at all the players that were given bad advice and immediately fired their agents afterwards (Dennis anyone?).
If the agent was on board he would have made a public statement given the attention the situation has gotten.
Shad
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Or any place for that matter. The NBA would essentially cease to exist at that point or would be limited to maybe 10 teams total? The NBA is a business and their product is the players. The more players that are drafted and become a Brunson or Jokic, the better it is for the business. These players wouldn't even exist if there was only 10 teams in the NBA today cause every player sat out from playing in Utah, Minny, etc...
After a year, if the Jazz offer a Required Tender and he rejects it, they retain his rights for another year. At the end of that year, they can offer another Required Tender, and retain his rights for yet another year.
The Jazz can prevent him from re-entering the draft indefinitely by just repeatedly offering Required Tenders each year.
EDIT: I think I might be wrong on this. ChatGPT interprets the CBA language this way but I think it might in fact just be one year. Not sure.
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So the Wizards have some leverage in this
They can make any offer they want Take it or leave
Yeah but wasn't it Ace and the family that hired this supposedly unregistered agent of all the available agents?
What was the thinking behind that?
Yeah, I mean obviously Ace has no real play other than convincing Washington to make a good offer then make Utah as uncomfortable as possible.
It’s basically a game of chicken right now to see who blinks first.
Sorry What did you mean