How bad/good is Cody Williams?

[seattlejazzfan]

I think the weird thing for me is when dudes want Jazz players to fail to make their predictions come true. I have been down on Brice since months before we drafted him but I want to be proven wrong on him so bad, because, wait for it.................I'm a fan of the team he plays on.

exactly how i feel about williams. nothing i'd love to be wrong on more - it would be crazy to have him and ace, two dudes with 7'1"+ wingspans at the wing both be really good.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Cody seems to have an off-switch, where he just goes through the motions and doesn't seem to care about anything. The difference in how engaged he was in the 2nd game vs. the 3rd game was pretty stark. It might be a confidence thing, where if he misses a few shots he backs off.

The good news is that the added strength is helping his defensive presence. There were a couple plays where he made Ajay Mitchell and Nikola Topic give up the ball.

 

[SoberasHotRod]

Its still wild to me how much of a non-factor he is at rebounding.

I was watching for this yesterday and I think it's still mostly a strength thing. He had good position and timing on a few rebounding opportunities, but just got pushed out of the way very easily.

There is probably some effort, timing, and skill that he is missing as well, but I think the majority of the rebounding deficiency is strength related.

 

[SoberasHotRod]

Cody has the skill of a big with the strength/ mentality of a guard. He needs gigantic improvements in one of the other to be a real player.

 

[framer]

Cody was one of the absolute worst defenders in the league last year and was terrible defensively in college as well. The defensive improvement for the Jazz with Cody is that Cody is probably going to barely play this year.

Do you have data to back this up or is it a measure of your acute observation? Was Cody a bad defender for a rookie in your estimation or just a bad defender in comparison with an average NBA player.

 

[fishonjazz]

I think the weird thing for me is when dudes want Jazz players to fail to make their predictions come true. I have been down on Brice since months before we drafted him but I want to be proven wrong on him so bad, because, wait for it.................I'm a fan of the team he plays on.

I was cheering the Cody pick when it happened and cheering Cody at the SL game and will cheer him all year.
But I wouldn't go so far as to say I think he will be better than Ace in 3-4 years.

 

[framer]

I think the weird thing for me is when dudes want Jazz players to fail to make their predictions come true. I have been down on Brice since months before we drafted him but I want to be proven wrong on him so bad, because, wait for it.................I'm a fan of the team he plays on.

My favorite is when you check a post history and every single post is that person clapping on our players. I don't understand why you come to the board to login and engage like that in every single interaction.

 

[fishonjazz]

My favorite is when you check a post history and every single post is that person clapping on our players. I don't understand why you come to the board to login and engage like that in every single interaction.

It's why ihadaneffecthere and tremendous downside are on my ignore list.
Way too negative

 

[Miggs]

Listen, I’d love to be wrong on Ace. I really would. I’m not hating just to hate. I just don’t see “It” with him and he doesn’t look like all-star material to me. Or even close really. That’s all. I’d love nothing more than to eat a gigantic plate of crow for every meal for a decade. Truthfully. Hell, @Handlogten's Heros and @Elizah Huge can get him on their pod and have him publicly roast me if he becomes a stud down the line. I’d love nothing more. In fact, I welcome it.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Honest question

What are the Cody lovers seeing here? He’s invisible all the times I’ve seen him with the exception of one game earlier this week. As a long time jazz fan, I’ve seen plenty of our drafted wings show flashes of life. Whether it be Sasha Pavlovic, Mo Almond, DeShawn, Trey Lyles, and Kirk Snyder. I think all of those players showed more life than Cody ever has and Cody is now in his second year.

I don’t get it.

And now the league is flooded with long athletic players who can shoot 3s and play defense. So someone convince me why a 70 year old Batum corpse wouldn’t help the Jazz win more right now? Going the young rebuild route, explain to me why dozens of other wings we see in the summer league shouldn’t play ahead of Cody (when they’re already outplaying him right now?).

What are you guys seeing? Cuz right now I’m seeing any vet being better than Cody right now. And I’m seeing a lot of other young wings showing more potential. Hell, that Juzang guy we had last year looked better and I don’t think he was even drafted. IMO, unless Cody goes crazy this year, his *** should be out of the league as soon as his contract is up. China is calling my dude.

I do believe Ace will stick around for a while. Size, skill, and athleticism win. Next year he’s gonna have plenty of opportunities to shoot too.

 

[Miggs]

Bro I don’t know. I just base Cody off of about 43 seconds I’ve seen. I don’t watch the games. My life is my children.

 

[seattlejazzfan]

Bro I don’t know. I just base Cody off of about 43 seconds I’ve seen. I don’t watch the games. My life is my children.

"i don't watch the games"

so immediately disregard all your basketball opinions. that makes things easier. it's becoming much more clear why you "just don't see it with Ace". none of us would "see it" if we didn't watch the games.