Game Thread Nov 23, 2025 06:00PM MT: Los Angeles Lakers @ Utah Jazz

[George W]

it is ****ing hysterical that ppl thought Collier deserved to start ahead of George at the start of this season.

- George

 

[jumpin bean]

Collier has been horribble in the halfcourt

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

it is ****ing hysterical that ppl thought Collier deserved to start ahead of George at the start of this season.

- George

I don't remember people here sharing that opinion.

 

[SoberasHotRod]

Cody not helping tank the offense is the opinion. The fact that the ORtg is fine with him on the court does not prove the opinion correct. That's awful statistical analysis. The SSS being the entire sample does nothing wrt curbing randomness/luck.

????

Cody didn't tank the offense because it wasn't tanked with him on the court.

Calling it a small sample size is using it to predict whether the Jazz will continue to have an ok offense with him on the court. That's my opinion, but I could be wrong.

 

[George W]

I don't remember people here sharing that opinion.

go look at preseason polls and how many voted for George being more likely to come off the bench

- George

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Jazz have scored 2 pts in the last 3 minutes. We're having a bit of a lull.

 

[SoberasHotRod]

Blast to the past, but I remember when somebody here was using this stat to try to make a point about Kanter's defense compared to Gobert's.

In the final month before we traded Kanter, the Jazz's defensive rating with Kanter on the court was actually a 98.1 in 388 minutes, whereas it was only a 105.5 in 340 Gobert minutes.

And now we have somebody using Cody Williams' offensive rating in 138 total minutes this season to make a similar point, when the correct conclusion should be that it's a really noisy stat, meaningless for the purpose they're trying to use it for.

That's not what I'm saying at all.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Flip hasn't been super productive tonight.

 

[str8line]

Nice patient setup by Ace for Flip. We may have hit the lottery with him.

 

[AK47]

Ace shows something new every night. His handles are getting much better.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

I think eventually Ace is going to be better than Lauri. He might not be the same pure volume scorer that Lauri is, but he's got more handle and shift off the dribble. He'll be able to create for himself.

 

[Doc Cherno]

That’s some bull with Brice’s three.