Hardy isn’t the guy for this job. It isn’t working

[HermanG]

Well, your whole argument falls apart when you just check at Svi's game log. The guy logged 0-5 for for a dub in 22min with a game score of -2.9 (not sure how anyone can get a minus gamescore) then immediately got rewarded with 30min the next game just two days later. Even just three days ago, shot 1-8 for 3pts in 18min then immediately gets rewarded with 33min the next game. “Entitled to the minutes”. No?

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And here's a look at Hardy's anti-svi project that is Brice Sensabaugh:

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Averaged 17ppg the first two games on 13/24 shooting then immediately gets rewarded with 11min the next game. Complete fell out of rotation by game 7 & 8. Truly master level of management.

I'm sorry but when has “miscromanaging” become a good thing, especially for young players who needs confidence and complete trust from his coach for making those young silly mistakes?

Especially funny how you use Key as an example towards the end and pretend that he's some kind of success story and ready to compete on the biggest stage because I just don't see him chucking up 16 shots a game for any team that wants to compete for the playoffs. How much are you willing to overpay to keep him?

Lmao. Using efficiency as an argument against him? REALLY?

Svi is playing a low usage spacing role with a TS of 61.1 despite a very difficult shot diet. He has the best FG% and 3P% of all the starters despite being mostly an off ball spacer and outlet who gets all kinds of trash grenades handed to him when we inbound the ball with seconds on the playclock. He is also the 2nd best movement shooter we have, which is very valuable for off ball spacers. He isnt really 3&D because the D is mostly missing... but there is absolutely no comparison between his spacing impact and that of Cody/Hendricks... and that benefits Key and Lauri greatly.

So arguing that "oh Svi is not entitled to minutes because he had this bad game" is super weak when the dude is one of our most efficient scorers despite a low volume. He steals minutes but he doesnt steal that many touches and usage.

Furthermore if you think statistics is the top thing a head coach uses to evaluate how his players execute on the court then this cannot ever turn into a serious conversation. I would say role/fit, executing the scheme and decission making are all more important to the coach than raw production. Hardy likes what he gets from Svi, and while I dont like watching him but I do see why he is out there.

 

[HermanG]

Well, your whole argument falls apart when you just check at Svi's game log. The guy logged 0-5 for for a dub in 22min with a game score of -2.9 (not sure how anyone can get a minus gamescore) then immediately got rewarded with 30min the next game just two days later. Even just three days ago, shot 1-8 for 3pts in 18min then immediately gets rewarded with 33min the next game, as he was absolutely dynamic in these mins, providing 6pts and 3TO. “Entitled to the minutes”. No?

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And here's a look at Hardy's anti-svi project that is Brice Sensabaugh:

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Averaged 17ppg the first two games on 13/24 shooting then immediately gets rewarded with 11min the next game. Complete fell out of rotation by game 7 & 8. Truly master level of management.

I'm sorry but when has “miscromanaging” become a good thing, especially for young players who needs confidence and complete trust from his coach for making those young silly mistakes?

He gave TH and WCJ mins last game not because they were feeling it, but because we were blown out of our own building and Hardy was simply giving his "scrubs" some extra burns so he can preserve his precious Svi/Nurk/Love for the next game.

Also kinda funny how you use Key as an example towards the end and pretend that he's some kind of success story and ready to compete on the biggest stage because I just don't see him chucking up 16 shots a game for any team that wants to compete for the playoffs. How much are you willing to overpay to keep him?

I didnt really respond to the Brice part, but you are just proving what I said there. Brice was hot in few games and got good burn, but then he played like trash and got his minutes cut down.

In the Phoenix game you referenced Brice got subbed in midway through first quarter as he did in games 1 and 2. He just outright sucked in that game so Hardy cut 8-9 2nd half minutes from his PT... which is exactly what he also did with Svi in that 0-5 game you referenced.

 

[Peter_Mentor]

Lmao. Using efficiency as an argument against him? REALLY?

Svi is playing a low usage spacing role with a TS of 61.1 despite a very difficult shot diet. He has the best FG% and 3P% of all the starters despite being mostly an off ball spacer and outlet who gets all kinds of trash grenades handed to him when we inbound the ball with seconds on the playclock. He is also the 2nd best movement shooter we have, which is very valuable for off ball spacers. He isnt really 3&D because the D is mostly missing... but there is absolutely no comparison between his spacing impact and that of Cody/Hendricks... and that benefits Key and Lauri greatly.

So arguing that "oh Svi is not entitled to minutes because he had this bad game" is super weak when the dude is one of our most efficient scorers despite a low volume. He steals minutes but he doesnt steal that many touches and usage.

Furthermore if you think statistics is the top thing a head coach uses to evaluate how his players execute on the court then this cannot ever turn into a serious conversation. I would say role/fit, executing the scheme and decission making are all more important to the coach than raw production. Hardy likes what he gets from Svi, and while I dont like watching him but I do see why he is out there.

Well said. The premise is totally absurd. No shooter should be "rewarded" or "punished" based on how he happened to shoot on five attempts in one game.

 

[HermanG]

Well said. The premise is totally absurd. No shooter should be "rewarded" or "punished" based on how he happened to shoot on five attempts in one game.

Yeah not to mention the fact that the dude often runs around the court like a rabid race horse, which is the exact opposite to Brice who cheats on defense by living in no-mans-land and generally floats around on offense and spectates instead of sharply and constantly relocating to open spots.

Hardy wants off ball movement, activity and shooting from his off ball wings, and Svi does those things much much better than Brice, Cody or TH.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I can be persuaded. What’s the argument for defending Hardy?

I see a coach that has the Jazz in purgatory. A coach that doesn’t make the playoffs ever but also isn’t bad enough to make them one day be good.

I see someone that plays head games with players, destroys young player’s confidence, and plays mediocre vets who haven’t done anything way too many minutes.

He has the Jazz sitting in the one area of the standings they can’t be this year and we’re 30% of the way through the season.

Svi has played 60 more minutes this season than Ace & nearly double the minutes of Sensabaugh/clayton/collier.

Nurkic has played more minutes than Flip & more than double the minutes of Hendricks.

Given the dynamic of the Jazz those facts are crazy.

Then last night in a game the Jazz were down more than 30 points the entire game, he gives Svi 33 minutes & senabaugh/collier only played 6. There’s no excuse for that to ever happen.

Why do Svi and Nurkic get a free pass for horrible play and unlimited minutes? It serves no purpose. It’s moronic and it’s only going to leave the Jazz where they are right now, 4 years into this mess.

Nurkic is the only center on the roster. He also helps make a lot of players better with his passing

Svi has played well. When he plays worse his minutes usually get cut a bit. He has a future on the team as he has two more years on his contract at the minimum and is currently overplaying his contract. He has more of a future on the team than Cody or Brice do.

 

[fishonjazz]

What happened with Hardy recently that I missed? On the radio this morning they were talking about something he did and discussing how some of the players are sick of him and have checked out.
I had no idea what they were talking about. Seemed like something that happened publicly, maybe on Sunday?

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[Zombie]

What happened with Hardy recently that I missed? On the radio this morning they were talking about something he did and discussing how some of the players are sick of him and have checked out.
I had no idea what they were talking about. Seemed like something that happened publicly, maybe on Sunday?

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I really don't know, but it could have been this maybe?


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[KqWIN]

This clip has gone viral because it's closeup on film....but what do people suppose it sounds like when we can see coaches chew out their players all the time? I bet this happens all day everyday around the league lol.

 

[jom2003]

Lmao. Using efficiency as an argument against him? REALLY?

Svi is playing a low usage spacing role with a TS of 61.1 despite a very difficult shot diet. He has the best FG% and 3P% of all the starters despite being mostly an off ball spacer and outlet who gets all kinds of trash grenades handed to him when we inbound the ball with seconds on the playclock. He is also the 2nd best movement shooter we have, which is very valuable for off ball spacers. He isnt really 3&D because the D is mostly missing... but there is absolutely no comparison between his spacing impact and that of Cody/Hendricks... and that benefits Key and Lauri greatly.

So arguing that "oh Svi is not entitled to minutes because he had this bad game" is super weak when the dude is one of our most efficient scorers despite a low volume. He steals minutes but he doesnt steal that many touches and usage.

Furthermore if you think statistics is the top thing a head coach uses to evaluate how his players execute on the court then this cannot ever turn into a serious conversation. I would say role/fit, executing the scheme and decission making are all more important to the coach than raw production. Hardy likes what he gets from Svi, and while I dont like watching him but I do see why he is out there.

I'm not comparing Svi to TH and definitely not Cody. I'm comparing him to Brice so answer the question. Everything you praised about Svi absolutely applied Brice as the kid went through the whole year last season shooting 61% on TS and was our best offball shooter by a mile(Lauri was going through a down year) Averaged better numbers than Svi across the board last year in less minutes. So why does he now get placed in a dungeon in favor of Svi? Isn't that double standard & preferential treatment or what?

And educate me on this whole "scheme/gameplan/the fit” thing because aren't we trying to tank this year? A gameplan that consistently get you blown out and probably will earn us no more than 30 wins the whole season isn't worth much of my time. I mean this isn't Svi's first season playing. ****. This isn't even his best season. He had two seasons where he averages 10pts ppg and got immediately released the following years by the 22 win OKC and 27 win Charlotte. Come back to me with those Hardy's "master gameplan" when we are serious about winning.

 

[jom2003]

I didnt really respond to the Brice part, but you are just proving what I said there. Brice was hot in few games and got good burn, but then he played like trash and got his minutes cut down.

In the Phoenix game you referenced Brice got subbed in midway through first quarter as he did in games 1 and 2. He just outright sucked in that game so Hardy cut 8-9 2nd half minutes from his PT... which is exactly what he also did with Svi in that 0-5 game you referenced.

So why did Svi immediately get to play 30min just a game after his 0-5 performance and went 1-4 for 3pts? It was against the Charlotte ****ing hornets where he managed to be a -15. Brice scored 7pts in 8 min in that same game btw. By your theory, why didn't Svi get benched for his poor play way before he reach the 20min mark? Why did he get to stay in while Brice had to watch from the bench?

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Just admit it. Svi shouldn't be playing this much minutes no matter what. And we are all sick and tried of it. The fans, the players and the media. There is no defending this.

 

[underdog]

I believe Hardy is a great basketball coach, but he’s not right for this Jazz rebuild. All he’s done is botch it.

He’s been hell bent on playing mediocre veterans pointless big minutes his entire time here. He plays head games with the young players and destroys their confidence. The Jazz draft picks as a whole aren’t developing (maybe his fault, maybe not, but the fact still stands).

This rebuild has mostly been botched so far. It’s ridiculous where the Jazz sit in the standings and we still have games Svi is playing 30+ minutes and Sensabaugh/Collier play 6. It’s absurd to be giving Nurkic & Love such big minutes over Filipowski & Hendricks.

There’s so many issues. You can visibly see the young players frustrated and the mind games mess with their confidence.

If the Jazz were in the playoffs, or the vets were helping the Jazz be a bottom 3 team, it would make sense. But they’re doing nothing to help. It’s year 4 of this and it’s rinse and repeat the same story every year. I’m done with Hardy.

It's not up to Hardy to decide whether the Jazz should aim to win or lose their games. Hardy has been giving Svi and Nurk a lot of playing time because he thinks that's our best chance to win, and coaching to try to win is clearly what Hardy has done so far this season. Here's my take on what went down. When the season ended, Ryan decided he was done with shenanigans and wanted his team to focus on winning their games (maybe he received too many complaints from folks paying him big bucks to attend the games). Then he talked about it with Austin, who said sure we can forget shenanigans, try to win our games, and still keep the pick, and he made trades he believed would make our roster bad enough to tank organically. But our tank has been sputtering so far. Will be interesting to see where we go from here - if anything changes.

 

[jom2003]

Hardy has been giving Svi and Nurk a lot of playing time because he thinks that's our best chance to win,

Then he should be fired just for thinking this.

 

[LogGrad98]

This clip has gone viral because it's closeup on film....but what do people suppose it sounds like when we can see coaches chew out their players all the time? I bet this happens all day everyday around the league lol.

Yeah imagine the **** Sloan would say. Yikes!

 

[Max Porter]

Give him a year where we aren’t tanking. You can’t judge a coach when we are actively TRYING to lose. The one year we tried is his first year then we made trades. And now we’re playing without Kessler who is most of our defense, a couple of lottery picks that really haven’t panned out (especially Cody) and a rookie in the starting 5. I don’t care if you’re Pat Riley or Phil Jackson or Sloan you are not going to win in that situation.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Give him a year where we aren’t tanking. You can’t judge a coach when we are actively TRYING to lose. The one year we tried is his first year then we made trades. And now we’re playing without Kessler who is most of our defense, a couple of lottery picks that really haven’t panned out (especially Cody) and a rookie in the starting 5. I don’t care if you’re Pat Riley or Phil Jackson or Sloan you are not going to win in that situation.

The Jazz are playing two guys at the 5 who might not be in the NBA next year, that's the main crux of the defensive issue.

 

[HermanG]

I'm not comparing Svi to TH and definitely not Cody. I'm comparing him to Brice so answer the question. Everything you praised about Svi absolutely applied Brice as the kid went through the whole year last season shooting 61% on TS and was our best offball shooter by a mile(Lauri was going through a down year) Averaged better numbers than Svi across the board last year in less minutes. So why does he now get placed in a dungeon in favor of Svi? Isn't that double standard & preferential treatment or what?

Brice plays the wrong way. He cheats on defense, doesnt close out well, does absolute doghouse worthy things like helps on the strong side off of great shooters. Also he has shot worse this year than laat year and isnt a guy who plays with high energy.

Is there any reason why Brice should play over Svi?

And educate me on this whole "scheme/gameplan/the fit” thing because aren't we trying to tank this year? A gameplan that consistently get you blown out and probably will earn us no more than 30 wins the whole season isn't worth much of my time. I mean this isn't Svi's first season playing. ****. This isn't even his best season. He had two seasons where he averages 10pts ppg and got immediately released the following years by the 22 win OKC and 27 win Charlotte. Come back to me with those Hardy's "master gameplan" when we are serious about winning.

You cannot be blind enough to think Hardy is tanking. Even the FO isnt right now. Thats the main gripe for 90% of the people in here, so even if you dont watch the games please at least read the messages of others instead of just voicing your opinions.

 

[HermanG]

So why did Svi immediately get to play 30min just a game after his 0-5 performance and went 1-4 for 3pts? It was against the Charlotte ****ing hornets where he managed to be a -15. Brice scored 7pts in 8 min in that same game btw. By your theory, why didn't Svi get benched for his poor play way before he reach the 20min mark? Why did he get to stay in while Brice had to watch from the bench?

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Just admit it. Svi shouldn't be playing this much minutes no matter what. And we are all sick and tried of it. The fans, the players and the media. There is no defending this.

You are trying strawman stuff with 1 game samples. Im not gonna tell you why the coach chose A or B in a single moment, but he isnt wrong in the big picture.

Svi plays with higher energy, shoots better and executes Hardys preferred style of play better than Brice.

Why dont you quote their whole season advanced/efficiency/epm/bpm or whatever metrics? Because all you got is single game straws.

 

[jom2003]

Brice plays the wrong way. He cheats on defense, doesnt close out well, does absolute doghouse worthy things like helps on the strong side off of great shooters. Also he has shot worse this year than laat year and isnt a guy who plays with high energy.

Is there any reason why Brice should play over Svi?

You cannot be blind enough to think Hardy is tanking. Even the FO isnt right now. Thats the main gripe for 90% of the people in here, so even if you dont watch the games please at least read the messages of others instead of just voicing your opinions.

So...are you saying Svi plays the right way? We are probably the only team in the league where he gets rewarded with a career high 26 min per game.

How hard is it for you to see this. We aren't just tanking. We are also bad, OK? Given the **** that went down over the last 3 seasons, I'm not sure you can make a whole lot of distinguishing between the two. It's not either or, you can be both. We are clearly a bad team right now and a lot of it falls on Hardy's bad coaching and management. If you put bad players in your rotation, you just gonna suck naturally no matter how much "energy" you give. Not rocket science.

 

[jom2003]

You are trying strawman stuff with 1 game samples. Im not gonna tell you why the coach chose A or B in a single moment, but he isnt wrong in the big picture.

Svi plays with higher energy, shoots better and executes Hardys preferred style of play better than Brice.

Why dont you quote their whole season advanced/efficiency/epm/bpm or whatever metrics? Because all you got is single game straws.

Svi has -1 OBPM and -1.6DBPM for a total BPM of -2.6. has an ortg of 119 and drtg of 126 for a net rtg of -7. He also has a VORP(value over replacement player) of -0.1 meaning the player subbed in usually brings more value than him. See? He's been a negative player for us no matter what metrics you look at.

And with everything you said, I'm sure you definitely read my previous message on Brice inability to get into a rhythm due to him being *****ed on by Hardy. How can you possibly expect a young kid to play well when he gets subbed out immediately after missing a shot or missing a defensive assignment and benched for the rest of the game, while Svi gets to do the exact same but gets a freepass to stay in the game?

I'm sure it was Svi's tremendous energy that helped us stay only within 30pt behind OKC in that blowout the last game. SGA wasn't even playing btw.

 

[HermanG]

Svi has -1 OBPM and -1.6DBPM for a total BPM of -2.6. has an ortg of 119 and drtg of 126 for a net rtg of -7. He also has a VORP(value over replacement player) of -0.1 meaning the player subbed in usually brings more value than him. See? He's been a negative player for us no matter what metrics you look at.

And with everything you said, I'm sure you definitely read my previous message on Brice inability to get into a rhythm due to him being *****ed on by Hardy. How can you possibly expect a young kid to play well when he gets subbed out immediately after missing a shot or missing a defensive assignment and benched for the rest of the game, while Svi gets to do the exact same but gets a freepass to stay in the game?

I'm sure it was Svi's tremendous energy that helped us stay only within 30pt behind OKC in that blowout the last game. SGA wasn't even playing btw.

Yeah ypu bring up Svi numbers but not Brices? Well done not doing what was asked but reverting to new straws.

No one here is saying that Svi is great. But he is still better than Brice, and plays better within the system.

Claiming that Hardy has unfounded favoritism towards a 28 yo no-name ukrainian is just dumb.