Mongoose
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Yes trump is hiding under your bed as you speak, you dumbass. Democrats are so dumb.
Greenland
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Red
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Petty? To a fault. A 5 year old? If that. A madman? This guy is really not much of a man at all, from what I can see. Trump supporters take pride in this??!! Really?!
He’s going to take Greenland because he did not get the 2025 Nobel Peace Prize. Such an irresponsible child, that he is actually willing to destroy NATO because he did not get what he wanted. The cult of Trump is led by a whining child, and there is no way around that fundamental fact regarding our 45th and 47th president: he ain’t much of a man at all. In fact, he has never grown up at all.
www.theguardian.com
Donald Trump has linked his repeated threats to seize control of Greenland to the fact that he has not been awarded the Nobel peace prize in an extraordinary letter sent to the Norwegian prime minister, Jonas Gahr Støre.
The US president said in the letter – the authenticity of which was confirmed by Støre to the Norwegian newspaper VG on Monday – that after failing to win the prize, he no longer felt the need to think “purely of peace”.
“Considering your Country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped 8 Wars PLUS, I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of Peace,” he said, adding he could now “think about what is good and proper” for the US.
Støre told VG that the letter had “come in response to a short message to President Trump from me earlier in the day, on behalf of myself and the President of Finland, Alexander Stubb”.
Trump has ramped up his rhetoric against Greenland, a largely self-governing part of Denmark, in recent weeks, saying the US would take control of it “one way or the other”. He said on social media at the weekend: “Now it is time, and it will be done!!!”
The US president on Saturday threatened to impose a 10% tariff on imports from Denmark, Norway, Sweden, France, Germany, the UK, the Netherlands and Finland from 1 February until the USis allowed to purchase the Arctic island.
The EU’s top diplomats met for crisis talks on Sunday, weighing retaliatory tariffs and more serious economic sanctions as transatlantic tensions continued to spiral over Washington’s push to control the territory, which it says it needs for national security.
Here ya go, cultists. This is pathetic.
He’s going to take Greenland because he did not get the 2025 Nobel Peace Prize. Such an irresponsible child, that he is actually willing to destroy NATO because he did not get what he wanted. The cult of Trump is led by a whining child, and there is no way around that fundamental fact regarding our 45th and 47th president: he ain’t much of a man at all. In fact, he has never grown up at all.
Donald Trump links threats to seize Greenland to Nobel prize snub in letter
US president says he no longer feels the need to think ‘purely of peace’ in letter to Norwegian prime minister
www.theguardian.com
Donald Trump has linked his repeated threats to seize control of Greenland to the fact that he has not been awarded the Nobel peace prize in an extraordinary letter sent to the Norwegian prime minister, Jonas Gahr Støre.
The US president said in the letter – the authenticity of which was confirmed by Støre to the Norwegian newspaper VG on Monday – that after failing to win the prize, he no longer felt the need to think “purely of peace”.
“Considering your Country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped 8 Wars PLUS, I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of Peace,” he said, adding he could now “think about what is good and proper” for the US.
Støre told VG that the letter had “come in response to a short message to President Trump from me earlier in the day, on behalf of myself and the President of Finland, Alexander Stubb”.
Trump has ramped up his rhetoric against Greenland, a largely self-governing part of Denmark, in recent weeks, saying the US would take control of it “one way or the other”. He said on social media at the weekend: “Now it is time, and it will be done!!!”
The US president on Saturday threatened to impose a 10% tariff on imports from Denmark, Norway, Sweden, France, Germany, the UK, the Netherlands and Finland from 1 February until the USis allowed to purchase the Arctic island.
The EU’s top diplomats met for crisis talks on Sunday, weighing retaliatory tariffs and more serious economic sanctions as transatlantic tensions continued to spiral over Washington’s push to control the territory, which it says it needs for national security.
Here ya go, cultists. This is pathetic.
Red
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Thanks, I corrected it.
Red
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I can always tell when a respondent is not the brightest. You really lost it here. I mean, you’re actually flipping out, lol. You’re not foaming at the mouth, are you? I sure can picture it, reading your meltdown, lol. My best guess is I may have got under your skin. Relax, you may get it some day. I am sorry to see you still hopelessly stuck in this “the world is split Democrat/Republican”. I’ve voted Republican many times over the many decades.
So listen. What do you think about Trump writing a letter to the Ambassador from Denmark, telling him that he, Donald, is no longer going to be focused on peace, because he did not get the 2025 Nobel Peace Prize? Do you agree that it’s worth starting a war with NATO because Donald didn’t get what he wanted? You don’t like wars, right, and are on an very high pedestal where war is concerned, right?All your stupid, stupid, efforts to agree with Trump taking Greenland, and it turns out he’s doing so because his feelings were hurt! What a man for the ages!
Red
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Sorry, @Mongoose, but despite your wild meltdown, your arguments in favor of Greenland belonging to the United States(BTW, this means you do not approve of a people’s’ right to “self determination”. Are you proud of that position?? Same position the colonies had in 1776. I guess you would have been on the side of George III?) are so lame! Your leader is a child and quite mad. And just who the hell are you to tell Greenlanders they have no right to “self determination”?
www.theatlantic.com
Let me begin by quoting, in full, a letter that the president of the United States of America sent yesterday to the prime minister of Norway, Jonas Gahr Støre. The text was forwarded by the White House National Security Council to ambassadors in Washington, and was clearly intended to be widely shared. Here it is:
Yet what matters isn’t the specific phrases, but the overall message: Donald Trump now genuinely lives in a different reality, one in which neither grammar nor history nor the normal rules of human interaction now affect him. Also, he really is maniacally, unhealthily obsessive about the Nobel Prize. The Norwegian Nobel Committee, not the Norwegian government and certainly not the Danish government, determines the winner of that prize. Yet Trump now not only blames Norway for failing to give it to him, but is using it as a justification for an invasion of Greenland.
Think about where this is leading. One possibility, anticipated this morning by financial markets, is a damaging trade war. Another is an American military occupation of Greenland. Try to imagine it: The U.S. Marines arrive in Nuuk, the island’s capital. Perhaps they kill some Danes; perhaps some American soldiers die too. And then what? If the invaders were Russians, they would arrest all of the politicians, put gangsters in charge, shoot people on the street for speaking Danish, change school curricula, and carry out a fake referendum to rubber-stamp the conquest. Is that the American plan too? If not, then what is it? This would not be the occupation of Iraq, which was difficult enough. U.S. troops would need to force Greenlanders, citizens of a treaty ally, to become American against their will.
For the past year, American allies around the world have tried very hard to find a theory that explains Trump’s behavior. Isolationism, neo-imperialism, and patrimonialism are all words that have been thrown around. But in the end, the president himself defeats all attempts to describe a “Trump doctrine.” He is locked into a world of his own, determined to “win” every encounter, whether in an imaginary competition for the Nobel Peace Prize or a protest from the mother of small children objecting to his masked, armed paramilitary in Minneapolis. These contests matter more to him than any long-term strategy. And of course, the need to appear victorious matters much more than Americans’ prosperity and well-being.
The people around Trump could find ways to stop him, as some did in his first term, but they seem too corrupt or too power-hungry to try. That leaves Republicans in Congress as the last barrier. They owe it to the American people, and to the world, to stop Trump from acting out his fantasy in Greenland and doing permanent damage to American interests. He is at risk of alienating friends in not only Europe but also India, whose leader he also snubbed for failing to nominate him for a Nobel Prize, as well as South Korea, Japan, Australia. Years of careful diplomacy, billions of dollars in trade, are now at risk because senators and representatives who know better have refused to use the powers they have to block him. Now is the time.
Trump’s Letter to Norway Should Be the Last Straw
Will Republicans in Congress ever step in?
www.theatlantic.com
Let me begin by quoting, in full, a letter that the president of the United States of America sent yesterday to the prime minister of Norway, Jonas Gahr Støre. The text was forwarded by the White House National Security Council to ambassadors in Washington, and was clearly intended to be widely shared. Here it is:
One could observe many things about this document. One is the childish grammar, including the strange capitalizations (“Complete and Total Control”). Another is the loose grasp of history. Donald Trump did not end eight wars. Greenland has been Danish territory for centuries. Its residents are Danish citizens who vote in Danish elections. There are many “written documents” establishing Danish sovereignty in Greenland, including some signed by the United States. In his second term, Trump has done nothing for NATO—an organization that the U.S. created and theoretically leads, and that has only ever been used in defense of American interests. If the European members of NATO have begun spending more on their own defense (budgets to which the U.S. never contributed), that’s because of the threat they feel from Russia.
Yet what matters isn’t the specific phrases, but the overall message: Donald Trump now genuinely lives in a different reality, one in which neither grammar nor history nor the normal rules of human interaction now affect him. Also, he really is maniacally, unhealthily obsessive about the Nobel Prize. The Norwegian Nobel Committee, not the Norwegian government and certainly not the Danish government, determines the winner of that prize. Yet Trump now not only blames Norway for failing to give it to him, but is using it as a justification for an invasion of Greenland.
Think about where this is leading. One possibility, anticipated this morning by financial markets, is a damaging trade war. Another is an American military occupation of Greenland. Try to imagine it: The U.S. Marines arrive in Nuuk, the island’s capital. Perhaps they kill some Danes; perhaps some American soldiers die too. And then what? If the invaders were Russians, they would arrest all of the politicians, put gangsters in charge, shoot people on the street for speaking Danish, change school curricula, and carry out a fake referendum to rubber-stamp the conquest. Is that the American plan too? If not, then what is it? This would not be the occupation of Iraq, which was difficult enough. U.S. troops would need to force Greenlanders, citizens of a treaty ally, to become American against their will.
For the past year, American allies around the world have tried very hard to find a theory that explains Trump’s behavior. Isolationism, neo-imperialism, and patrimonialism are all words that have been thrown around. But in the end, the president himself defeats all attempts to describe a “Trump doctrine.” He is locked into a world of his own, determined to “win” every encounter, whether in an imaginary competition for the Nobel Peace Prize or a protest from the mother of small children objecting to his masked, armed paramilitary in Minneapolis. These contests matter more to him than any long-term strategy. And of course, the need to appear victorious matters much more than Americans’ prosperity and well-being.
The people around Trump could find ways to stop him, as some did in his first term, but they seem too corrupt or too power-hungry to try. That leaves Republicans in Congress as the last barrier. They owe it to the American people, and to the world, to stop Trump from acting out his fantasy in Greenland and doing permanent damage to American interests. He is at risk of alienating friends in not only Europe but also India, whose leader he also snubbed for failing to nominate him for a Nobel Prize, as well as South Korea, Japan, Australia. Years of careful diplomacy, billions of dollars in trade, are now at risk because senators and representatives who know better have refused to use the powers they have to block him. Now is the time.
Red
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@Mongoose wrote: “He also says that “Greenland is closer to North America than it is to Denmark in Europe” which it is you ****ing dope!”
Yeah, but no kidding, lol. I mean, I already knew that. I just wanted you to know, since Iceland is right next door, and since the closest point between the two is only 186 miles, and since the body of water between Greenland and Iceland is known as the “Denmark Straight”, and to the east of Greenland lies the Norwegian Sea, and since Iceland is part of Europe, I just thought you’d like to know, that, culturally and geographically, there really is no reason to listen to anyone of Trump’s rationales. He’s just mad about not getting a peace prize! Said that was the reason himself!
It’s called education, don’t be afraid. You should not be swearing at anyone for educating you. You do not know everything, and don’t need to be so touchy! You sound nearly as “sensitive” as the whiner in the Oval Office!
And last time I checked being a teeny tiny bit closer to Washington D.C.than to Copenhagen does not= therefore Greenland should belong to the United States. I also already told you Greenland sits on the North American plate. Can you tell me why sitting on the North American tectonic plate means Greenland should belong to the United States? Explain the logic. But, wait, can I use your same logic? Southern New England, and several other places on the East Coast were once joined physically with portions of Europe as a volcanic chain of islands in an earlier Atlantic. The cliffs in Newport, RI are the exact same geological formation as the cliffs in Anglesey, Wales. They were once connected together! Maybe Great Britain can claim New England? We were joined to them long, long before we were attached to North America. https://www.google.com/search?q=Can...2ahUKEwj0kej7hJiSAxXok4kEHZHDOEoQgK4QegQIARAE
Given your idea of “logic”, not sure I’d be calling others “stupid” so frequently. Or as Spock might say “I fail to see the logic in your argument”.
“I hate to be pedantic and suggest that we should actually look at a map, but here goes:The distance from Copenhagen (capital of Denmark) to Nuuk is approximately 3,535 km (2,197 miles).The distance from Washington DC to Nuuk is approximately 3,263 km (2,027 miles).Washington DC is closer to Nuuk than Copenhagen is, by about 272 km (170 miles).Is Fetterman really suggesting the US start World War III because Washington is 170 miles (8%) closer to Nuuk, Greenland? Give me an effing break”.
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Another map for you. Greenland, settled by Icelanders a thousand years ago. Popes appointed bishops to European people of Greenland for several hundred years. Now inhabited by people of European heritage and Inuit indigenous. Really doesn’t have a thing to do with the United States or Donald Trump.
Look at all those European terms. Reflects both the geography and the history of the Northeast Atlantic!
Yeah, but no kidding, lol. I mean, I already knew that. I just wanted you to know, since Iceland is right next door, and since the closest point between the two is only 186 miles, and since the body of water between Greenland and Iceland is known as the “Denmark Straight”, and to the east of Greenland lies the Norwegian Sea, and since Iceland is part of Europe, I just thought you’d like to know, that, culturally and geographically, there really is no reason to listen to anyone of Trump’s rationales. He’s just mad about not getting a peace prize! Said that was the reason himself!
It’s called education, don’t be afraid. You should not be swearing at anyone for educating you. You do not know everything, and don’t need to be so touchy! You sound nearly as “sensitive” as the whiner in the Oval Office!
And last time I checked being a teeny tiny bit closer to Washington D.C.than to Copenhagen does not= therefore Greenland should belong to the United States. I also already told you Greenland sits on the North American plate. Can you tell me why sitting on the North American tectonic plate means Greenland should belong to the United States? Explain the logic. But, wait, can I use your same logic? Southern New England, and several other places on the East Coast were once joined physically with portions of Europe as a volcanic chain of islands in an earlier Atlantic. The cliffs in Newport, RI are the exact same geological formation as the cliffs in Anglesey, Wales. They were once connected together! Maybe Great Britain can claim New England? We were joined to them long, long before we were attached to North America. https://www.google.com/search?q=Can...2ahUKEwj0kej7hJiSAxXok4kEHZHDOEoQgK4QegQIARAE
Given your idea of “logic”, not sure I’d be calling others “stupid” so frequently. Or as Spock might say “I fail to see the logic in your argument”.
“I hate to be pedantic and suggest that we should actually look at a map, but here goes:The distance from Copenhagen (capital of Denmark) to Nuuk is approximately 3,535 km (2,197 miles).The distance from Washington DC to Nuuk is approximately 3,263 km (2,027 miles).Washington DC is closer to Nuuk than Copenhagen is, by about 272 km (170 miles).Is Fetterman really suggesting the US start World War III because Washington is 170 miles (8%) closer to Nuuk, Greenland? Give me an effing break”.
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Another map for you. Greenland, settled by Icelanders a thousand years ago. Popes appointed bishops to European people of Greenland for several hundred years. Now inhabited by people of European heritage and Inuit indigenous. Really doesn’t have a thing to do with the United States or Donald Trump.
Look at all those European terms. Reflects both the geography and the history of the Northeast Atlantic!
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Red
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Intelligent and well spoken.
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Russia celebrates 'NATO's collapse' as Trump threatens Greenland invasion
Russia is rejoicing at Europe being at a 'total loss'.
www.express.co.uk
Russia is rejoicing at President Donald Trump’s quest to take over Greenland, portraying the move as further evidence of a deepening crisis within NATO and a strategic win for Moscow. Russian media have framed Trump as an unlikely catalyst for NATO’s internal unraveling.
Several outlets have even depicted him as a historically significant figure, not for strengthening Western unity, but for accelerating its decline. Speaking in an extremely gleeful tone, Russian pundits for the Moskovsky Komsomolets, a Moscow Daily paper, said: “Europe’s at a total loss. It’s a pleasure to watch.” The article went on to mock the idea of conflict within NATO itself, asking rhetorically: “Which NATO countries should start fighting one of NATO’s founding members? I’d watch that.”
The headline was equally scathing, branding Trump the “mad chief doctor of the asylum.” Meanwhile, commentators in the Russian Government paper, Rossiyskaya Gazeta, praised Trump’s determination in acquiring the territory.
Part of the article read: “If Trump achieves the annexation of Greenland by July 4 2026, when America celebrates the 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence, he will undoubtedly become one of the historical figures to assert the greatness of the United States.”
“Europe doesn’t need the American greatness Trump is promoting…the Old World's keen to keep Greenland for itself, even at the risk of NATO’s collapse", added the Government paper.
Trump has just handed Putin the prize he’s always wanted
The Kremlin failed to fracture Nato during the Cold War. That unity is now being tested by Washington
www.telegraph.co.uk
The Soviet Union spent more than 40 years trying to achieve what has just been handed to Vladimir Putin on a plate. Throughout the Cold War, the Kremlin’s primary objective was to split the Atlantic Alliance (Nato) by turning America and Europe against one another.
Every crisis over the security of West Berlin, from the Soviet ultimatum for the West to leave the city in 1958 to the building of the Wall in 1961, was designed to open cracks in Nato. “To make the West scream, I squeeze on Berlin,” as Nikita Khrushchev, then Soviet leader, put it in 1959.
His successor, Leonid Brezhnev, deployed a new generation of nuclear missiles – the SS20s – in the satellite states of central Europe precisely to divide the West over how to respond.
All of those efforts failed. America and Europe knew exactly what the Soviets were up to and, though they differed and argued, the allies never allowed the Kremlin the satisfaction of watching them break apart.
Today, thanks to Donald Trump, Putin can revel in that spectacle. He has spent 25 years pursuing the old Soviet policy of trying to split the West. Time and again, he has denounced Nato for supposedly trying to “encircle” or “terrorise” Russia, as if the very existence of the Atlantic Alliance posed a threat to world peace, and as though the sight of sovereign countries choosing to join its ranks somehow justified his aggression.
Now, suddenly, the fissure Putin has always yearned for is opening before his eyes.
The president of the United States has not only laid claim to the sovereign territory of a Nato ally, Denmark, but threatened to use force to get his way. On Saturday, Trump deliberately escalated the confrontation by ordering punitive tariffs against no fewer than eight allies, including Britain, for the offence of saying what should be common cause: that the future status of Greenland is a matter for the island’s inhabitants and the government of Denmark.
On Monday, Trump went further still by sending a threatening message to another ally, Norway. In a leaked letter to the Norwegian prime minister, Jonas Store, Trump said that since he had been denied the Nobel Peace Prize he “no longer feel
Red
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Self determination. And indigenous perspectives.
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Is Trump the best president ever? To clarify I mean for Russia?