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Real stopping power lies with rifles and shotguns. A pistol is just a underpowered rifle.

S&W 500 can blow the *** hole out of a water buffalo. It has 7x more stopping power than Dutch's girly .357 mag. Shoot a guy in the toe and it'll still blow his entire foot off.

Watch the Manswers video.
 
so if hee warns you you run up to him with your bare hands?

You may have me confused with someone else. I am a gun owner. If he starts barking at 2 AM I am going to reach into the safe at bedside and grab my gun. Then have a silent look around. All I am saying is that a dog has its place(a rather good one imo) in a home defense system.
 
And in the end, using pretty much any handgun above a .32acp, shot placement is going to make much more of a difference than stopping power most of the time.

This. If I have to shoot someone (hopefully this is NEVER the case) I am going for a kill. 2 in the chest and 1 in the head.
 
If you ask 5 gun salesmen about stopping power for .38 special JHP or 9mm JHP, you will get 5 different answers and explanations. Most people concede that .38 auto doesn't have the stopping power needed.

Real stopping power lies with rifles and shotguns. A pistol is just a underpowered rifle.

what stopping power are we talking about here. we are talking about stopping an average built guy right? (not a shaq type guy)
now avg might vary on where you are from i agree. dont know the avg from utah. but where i'm from it kinda stops the avg guy.
 
You may have me confused with someone else. I am a gun owner. If he starts barking at 2 AM I am going to reach into the safe at bedside and grab my gun. Then have a silent look around. All I am saying is that a dog has its place(a rather good one imo) in a home defense system.

don't get me wrong i love dogs had them all my life, but not as a place in home defense
 
don't get me wrong i love dogs had them all my life, but not as a place in home defense

******** you say. If an intruder is trying to get into your house they want to do so as quietly and unnoticed as possible. The second that large dog starts barking they have lost the element of stealth and surprise. They also don't know what type of dog they are facing. Unless they have targeted you specifically for a very specific reason chances are very high that the intruder stops and goes elsewhere. No sense risking getting bit, having the cops called or at worst, getting shot because the homeowner has been alerted.
 
******** you say. If an intruder is trying to get into your house they want to do so as quietly and unnoticed as possible. The second that large dog starts barking they have lost the element of stealth and surprise. They also don't know what type of dog they are facing. Unless they have targeted you specifically for a very specific reason chances are very high that the intruder stops and goes elsewhere. No sense risking getting bit, having the cops called or at worst, getting shot because the homeowner has been alerted.

Right!

The overwhelming majority of the time someone breaks into your house it is for some sort of material gain. They do not want to shot you, even if they might if they feel cornered. They certainly don't want to contend with a dog and an alerted homeowner who may have called the police and may be armed. They want to slip in, grab something valuable and get out. If they are completely unnoticed then they did a good job of being a burgler. If they get the stuff and have to high-tail it out then they've only done a mediocre job. If they get noticed before they get the goods they have done a bad job. However, if they get in any sort of shoot-out, which draws a hell of a lot of attention then they have failed. If they get hit by a bullet then they are as good as convicted because you can't get a bullet-wound treated without law enforcement wanting to talk to you. If they know you know they are there and you have a gun then they most likely just want to get the hell outta there. All the talk of stopping power is meaningless. Buglars don't charge you after taking multiple gun-shots. They try to flee to avoid going to prison.
 
According to the statistics on this website (an anti-pit bull one to boot), I'm probably over paranoid about dogs attacking owners. Only about 3000 attacks over the last 20 years with the majority non-fatal. That's really low compared to crime rates.

https://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-study-dog-attacks-and-maimings-merritt-clifton.php

There are breeds that are fantastic with kids. Labs and golden retrievers in general. I'd also recommend shelties. I grew up around dogs all my life. We'd ride the big ones, lay on them, sneak them into bed...a good dog (usually what you make the dog) is a wonderful thing. They are usually as loyal as the kids parents. When we wanted to go somewhere my mom made us take the dogs on a leash and she wouldnt have to worry. The dogs saw us kids as their own and were extremely protective.
 
According to the statistics on this website (an anti-pit bull one to boot), I'm probably over paranoid about dogs attacking owners. Only about 3000 attacks over the last 20 years with the majority non-fatal. That's really low compared to crime rates.

https://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-study-dog-attacks-and-maimings-merritt-clifton.php

This. You are worrying about trained guard/attack dogs. Most of us are talking about family pets that have been raised with the kids that bark when a stranger comes around..
 
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