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Tyrone Corbin right name for the future?

illyasova

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I am watching jazz basketball for last 10 years due to Memo Okur factor cause i am big fan of him. So i am one of the traditional jazz fan who was very sad after Sloan's leaving and the players like Okur, Krilenko, D-will and even Booz. But the change was supposed to be made so i have been very optimistic about the future of the team thx to the young guys Kanter, Favors, Burks and sure Hayward.

Although i have been optimistic about the future, still not sure of the coach. I watched all matches this year and it is for sure that there is a wrong direction of the team. The aim for Jazz this year is being the 8th spot and having a chance to play in the playoffs and get swept by 1st and lose the draft prospects or providing the quality minutes to young guys whose limits are just the sky?

For example, Enes Kanter. Even all general NBA followers discussing if he was the right pick or worth for the 3rd pick. That is just not up to Kanter but Tyrone Corbin. This last Dallas match, how many times he got touched the ball to score? Just two times, 1st is offensive rebound and the second is one post up position. So his role is just being scrappy player who goes just for rebounds, defensive minded player. So u think it is gonna change in his sophomore year? Not at all. He already showed that he has some post up moves and 15 footer shots even though not consistant but u gotta let him try all to trust in himself and learn from mistakes but he is not allowed to do either.

Hayward: He got his minutes yeah but how many times Corbin tried to use his strength? He is not spot up shooter specialist. He is Hedo Turkoglu type player who likes to play some point forward and glue to the team but Corbin insists on him to score by making him bus waiter at the wing without touchin the ball on offense. Use him like Turkoglu of Orlando on offense and see the flow of it. Just try.

Burks: Yep, he is brave, knows how to take thefouls and goes to FT but u gotta warn him not to be a selfish player or ball hog. He is just like the other Nick Young who shoots all but never passes. Being aggressive is good but there is a limit for it. We all know he has potential to pass, defend and all but coach has to sharpen his other assets too.

Faywors: The same goes for Favors with Kanter. How many times he got passes in P n R positions? He is easily not post up guy opposite of Kanter, but perfect mobile and athletic guy who needs to get the pass while sliding to the rim but Corbin wanna him to be post up player so he loses the ball or pushes hard and takes the reaction.

Sorry it was long but i am really concerning about these factors and pissed off Corbin after Dallas match. Bored of him to use players wrong, believing starters too much, thinking himself so much by being classic one who never uses young guys and provide us mediocre team with no upside.
 
I'll be honest, I didn't read your post. I'll second PKM's notion: No.

Corbin is a mediocre coach, and that's putting it nicely.
 
Give it one more season.

I'd like to see him with a full training camp.

The problem I have is with his rotations and his decisions to take out players when he does. As soon as someone hits a couple shots and starts to gain some sort of confidence he takes them out of the game and doesn't play them for most of the rest of the game. That's a huge problem. If he fixes that than I'd have no complaints; he's basically still a rookie head coach.
 
Give it one more season.

I'd like to see him with a full training camp.

My opinion is we have a VERY short window to greatness. We may blow it waiting one more year. I agree with you that he likely deserves another year .. I'm just not necessarily prepared to play nice ... 30years of mediocrity, followed by this opportunity, followed by mediocrity .. is not my patience level served.
 
I do not think it is about short NBA season whithout training camp. It is about the mentality and pick the right option. He just wanna guarantee his job by being mediocre. Using Al jefferson and Millsap is easy way to be the coach but how bout to let young guys be the man even though the mistakes or how bout make the right system for the future from now on? Nope. He is thinking short period and it hurts the potential and young guys.
 
My opinion is we have a VERY short window to greatness. We may blow it waiting one more year. I agree with you that he likely deserves another year .. I'm just not necessarily prepared to play nice ... 30years of mediocrity, followed by this opportunity, followed by mediocrity .. is not my patience level served.

Or we just add to our mediocrity by constantly hiring and firing coaches like all the other terrible teams do.
 
Or we just add to our mediocrity by constantly hiring and firing coaches like all the other terrible teams do.

The success depends on consistency u right but it is also supposed to bring the right elements. Did he use players well? Nope. Given the minutes to young guys? Nope. The sophomores improving their games? Nope. The starters are in long term plan? Nope Have u seen any additional offensive tactics without Al's pushing jumper? Nope So, really not sure of him and the positive future now.
 
The success depends on consistency u right but it is also supposed to bring the right elements. Did he use players well? Nope. Given the minutes to young guys? Nope. The sophomores improving their games? Nope. The starters are in long term plan? Nope Have u seen any additional offensive tactics without Al's pushing jumper? Nope So, really not sure of him and the positive future now.

Guess he told YOU, Cy.



Cy is officially illyasova's bitch.
 
The success depends on consistency u right but it is also supposed to bring the right elements. Did he use players well? Nope. Given the minutes to young guys? Nope. The sophomores improving their games? Nope. The starters are in long term plan? Nope Have u seen any additional offensive tactics without Al's pushing jumper? Nope So, really not sure of him and the positive future now.

Young guys are getting minutes. Corbin is giving Burks minutes.

Favors and Hayward have both improved defensively tremendously in my opinion.

Corbin addressed that making the offense more complex wouldn't be possible due to the lack of off-season and training camps.

Don't forget he is a rookie HC. Just like with rookie players, he has a lot of potential to improve. Give him at least until the end of next year.
 
Young guys are getting minutes. Corbin is giving Burks minutes.

Favors and Hayward have both improved defensively tremendously in my opinion.

Corbin addressed that making the offense more complex wouldn't be possible due to the lack of off-season and training camps.

Don't forget he is a rookie HC. Just like with rookie players, he has a lot of potential to improve. Give him at least until the end of next year.

Young guys do not take the enough time to improve. Burks is getting average of 12 min even the absence of Bell. Enough to improve? Nope for me.

The third pick Kanter is averaging 14 min. Enough to improve? Nope.

The third pick of last year Favors averaging 20 min. Enough min? Yea, may be if he was Okur, 32 years old veteran and if the team was so balanced and aim playoffs

Hayward: 28 min. Enough? Yea but the role of him especially on offense or even the position is mix

Yeah Corbin is rookie but trust me even Golden state coach is finding new patterns for the offense to his team and he is really bad but Corbin's tactics are easy to guess. How many times he got time out and we found some points? Back door passes to favs? P n R with not just guard and center but guard and forward? etc..

For the hope, u gotta see something, sorry but not as optimistic as you. It seems to me, young guys deserve more and more. We gotta make investment for the future but u gotta do it from now not later.
 
Young guys do not take the enough time to improve. Burks is getting average of 12 min even the absence of Bell. Enough to improve? Nope for me.

The third pick Kanter is averaging 14 min. Enough to improve? Nope.

The third pick of last year Favors averaging 20 min. Enough min? Yea, may be if he was Okur, 32 years old veteran and if the team was so balanced and aim playoffs

Hayward: 28 min. Enough? Yea but the role of him especially on offense or even the position is mix

Yeah Corbin is rookie but trust me even Golden state coach is finding new patterns for the offense to his team and he is really bad but Corbin's tactics are easy to guess. How many times he got time out and we found some points? Back door passes to favs? P n R with not just guard and center but guard and forward? etc..

For the hope, u gotta see something, sorry but not as optimistic as you. It seems to me, young guys deserve more and more. We gotta make investment for the future but u gotta do it from now not later.

Please post more. I like your insight.
 
Please post more. I like your insight.

Thx man, same goes for you. As a basketball fan, iam trying to follow young guys both at the college and in Europe, so we sure can talk about draft prospects too. As i know, u follow Kentucky and college games well.
 
Thx man, same goes for you. As a basketball fan, iam trying to follow young guys both at the college and in Europe, so we sure can talk about draft prospects too. As i know, u follow Kentucky and college games well.

I'm the guy for local. You become the guy for the xeno scene .. cool?
 
HOLY COW!

What in the world is wrong with your brains?

I agree 100 percent that it would be nice to get minutes for these young guys. But this is not on Ty Corbin. What is he supposed to do? Set his high paid, borderline Allstar guys on the bench in favor of the kids?

This is on KEVIN O CONNOR

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Seriously

Al and MIllsap are already playing short minutes for guys being starters. Ty is doing the best he can at putting the young guys on the court.

From a business stand point of making a trade of Al or Millsap or both, He needs to showcase them or else their value will drop.


Cmon Man!

What is so hard about this?
 
Corbin drives us insane, but what are we supposed to do? Tell him to log on to Jazzfanz and defend himself?! LOL Like someone else said, KOC has to come up some epic vet trade to save Corbin from himself. Then he'll be forced to play the rookies in certain positions.
 
I am just trying to follow young prospects especially from Europe. Turkey, Serbia, Crotia, Russia are priorities. College basketball comes after to follow draft prospects especially the players coming from Europe to NCAA.
 
I seriously bet that it is already bothering Millsap and Al that they don't get their full minutes. I'm sure Millsap would have had a better chance at making the Allstar team if he would have played more minutes

More minutes= more stats= better chance at being allstar

This isn't good for a team to be playing this game with the starters and backups.

That's why this is on Kevin O Connor to make a change soon
 
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