Gyp Rosetti
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They sucked in that thread too.
I know, I know, a freakin' trade proposal
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They sucked in that thread too.
Gyp Rosetti
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Have a ****ty lottery.
trigg3r
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Hantlers
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I just wanted to call your mother a whore again.
Gyp Rosetti
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That's cool. Call mine one all you want. Yours is one. And she has the ***-stained lips to prove it.
NAOS
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both of these are better than the P*NIS chutney you've whipped up in this thread. I take that Bucks trade 8 days a week.
trigg3r
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What's your return for Jeffy?
Gyp Rosetti
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Who was it? The kid from UCLA and who else?
NAOS
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Al to Indy for George Hill + a future first
Al to the Bucks for Mbah a Moute + Udrih
Yeah, these kick the living **** out of a Maggs trade.
Stifle Tower
Punch Bowl Re-Filler
Umm, no they don't. We're asking a team to take on an overpriced 1-yr rental. Unless a team is over the cap and has already used their amnesty clause, we won't get value back. I keep telling you guys...expiring contracts are pretty useless now, unless teams are willing to take back bad contracts. And KOC has been pretty adamant about not doing that.
There's a very slim chance Jefferson or Harris gets traded in the offseason. Maybe a team like Milwaukee takes Big AL. They need a center. But again, a team needing a big is going to look for a decent bargain and probably a player who is signed for a couple of years. It's more likely KOC is able to use the Memo TPE. Or we'd need to trade Jefferson or Harris PLUS a draft pick to get a starting wing from a team looking to dump salaries.
Gyp Rosetti
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Indy would have no interest in this. They have Hibbert, West, Hansbrough, and they're not stupid enough to take on another big who will be a black hole when they have a good team thing going. Let alone for a solid wing and a 1st rounder.
And the Bucks trade? For what? So we can have another God awful 3 who can't shoot the 3? But hey, we'd only have him on the books for four more years. Or is it Udrih? We need a fourth mediocre to average point guard?
Indy would have no interest in this. They have Hibbert, West, Hansbrough, and they're not stupid enough to take on another big who will be a black hole when they have a good team thing going. Let alone for a solid wing and a 1st rounder.
And the Bucks trade? For what? So we can have another God awful 3 who can't shoot the 3? But hey, we'd only have him on the books for four more years. Or is it Udrih? We need a fourth mediocre to average point guard?
trigg3r
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We'll see.
trigg3r
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I am not sure everyone considers him a black hole like we do. So maybe they are foolish enough to think he is the missing piece.
NAOS
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Since you don't even watch the Jazz games I'm going to assume you aren't watching Indy. I have been. Hibbert is fine, but he needs help. West has flashes, but isn't great; he can't play C. Hansbrough is limited; undersized. They need more balanced paint scoring if they are going to get through the East. They consider this trade. I'll downgrade to a second-round pick to get it done.
Udrih expires after next year, and acquiring him gives us flexibility to dump Harris or just bring along a rookie. We could go into the year with Watson/Udrih/Rookie. We don't have a glut of PGs. Have you noticed that?
Anytime you are in a division with Kevin Durant, then you have interest in one of the best SF defenders in the league.
EDIT TO ADD: Moreover, the Jazz are already pretty close to getting the major pieces in place. What they lack now will be added in the draft and in the '13 free agent class. When you trade Jefferson you should be looking for a role player that has one great bankable skill. Moute fits that description. Take a look at the Spurs team-building strategies. They do this trade running away.
MORE: take a look at Indy's balance sheet. A one-year rental on a guy like Jefferson that could put them over the top as a complementary piece is EXACTLY what they need. https://hoopshype.com/salaries/indiana.htm
G. Hill expires after next year, so he fits KOC's vision perfectly. 3 point shooting needed.
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Stifle Tower
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There are some scenarios, but most likely in a 3-team trade. Lakers, if they don't win the Deron sweepstakes, could take a look at Harris. Milwaukee has already been mentioned for Jefferson. KOC could also use the Memo TPE to facilitate a trade or FA signing by another team. Deron hits the market this summe and it looks like NJ, Dallas and LA are the preferred destinations. Orlando might also have an outside shot given that Dwight is staying there. I could see one of those teams try to pull us in and use our $10.9M and other assets to clear enough cap space to sign him. For example, Team A could send us a starting wing + other salaries up to $10.9M, then amnesty an additional player to get under the cap by $17M, or whatever Deron will be getting.
trigg3r
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The Nets are about to feel really silly by the looks of things. I don't see him wanting to stick around. Will the extra money they can offer him be enough?
Stifle Tower
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Probably not. And I'm sure he feels betrayed by Dwight. Deron holds grudges. We know how pissed he was at Sloan for not playing him and then KOC for trading Brewer. I don't see himstaying in New Jersey/Brooklyn or going to Orlando. I think he'll either go home to Dallas or try to join the Lakers. I'm not sure what those teams need to do in terms of clearing cap space. The amnesty thing really hurts the Jazz as a team can just pick a player and cut him and have that salary cleared from the tax and cap calculations.
Not that the Lakers or Mavs have anyone we particularly want, but we could get in on a three-way deal perhaps.
orangello
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Like the Jazz did.
NAOS
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not quite that easy. But, yeah, the amnesty thing has hurt the value of expiring contracts.
trigg3r
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Bingo!