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BYE

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Locke wrote an article on the big line-up. Here's the link: https://weareutahjazz.com/lockedonjazz/2012/04/23/breakdown-jazz-big-line-up-elite-defensively/.

What's incredible is that they are outscoring opponents 114 to 78 with Jefferson, Favors, Millsap, Hayward, and Harris on the floor, which is tops in the league.

Here's Locke talking about the lineup:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=6v8UEQwtoOI#t=769s

Here's a little graph found in his article.
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Yikes, Kanter as the 5 has a -15.7.

Ya, it's interesting that he is so low, but defense doesn't seem to be the problem; for some reason the offense isn't running well when he's on the floor during this very limited 32:00 minutes. He was slumping before these last two or three games.
 
Ya, it's interesting that he is so low, but defense doesn't seem to be the problem; for some reason the offense isn't running well when he's on the floor during this very limited 32:00 minutes. He was slumping before these last two or three games.

You really can't tell why?

Three main things. First, on the motion play, where the big gets the ball at top of key, Kanter refuses to make a pass to the cutter under the basket and rarely passes to that player when he comes around the other big pick a second later, and has to meekly pass back to the point, whose defender is wise to Kanter's inability to do anything pass related with the ball and thus overplays the point, effectively blowing up the play and forcing the Jazz into a haphazard pick and roll which leads to the second point, where the Jazz' ballhandlers do not trust Kanter in any sense in the pick and roll and refuse to pass him the ball either when Kanter is rolling or when he pops out to sixteen feet, essentially making the point guard go one on two with the defense, often leading to turnovers and bad shots and a feeling that the Jazz are not getting one of their bigs the ball, a definite no-no for them, so they work hard on some possessions to get the ball, leading to the third point, which is the only time Kanter gets the ball, in the low post, he feels obligated to get a shot off, and he doesn't have the best PPP (points per possession) in the post, meaning he's inefficient down there.

Did that in one sentence. YEAH BABY!
 
You really can't tell why?

Three main things. First, on the motion play, where the big gets the ball at top of key, Kanter refuses to make a pass to the cutter under the basket and rarely passes to that player when he comes around the other big pick a second later, and has to meekly pass back to the point, whose defender is wise to Kanter's inability to do anything pass related with the ball and thus overplays the point, effectively blowing up the play and forcing the Jazz into a haphazard pick and roll which leads to the second point, where the Jazz' ballhandlers do not trust Kanter in any sense in the pick and roll and refuse to pass him the ball either when Kanter is rolling or when he pops out to sixteen feet, essentially making the point guard go one on two with the defense, often leading to turnovers and bad shots and a feeling that the Jazz are not getting one of their bigs the ball, a definite no-no for them, so they work hard on some possessions to get the ball, leading to the third point, which is the only time Kanter gets the ball, in the low post, he feels obligated to get a shot off, and he doesn't have the best PPP (points per possession) in the post, meaning he's inefficient down there.

Did that in one sentence. YEAH BABY!

Rep
 
You really can't tell why?

Three main things. First, on the motion play, where the big gets the ball at top of key, Kanter refuses to make a pass to the cutter under the basket and rarely passes to that player when he comes around the other big pick a second later, and has to meekly pass back to the point, whose defender is wise to Kanter's inability to do anything pass related with the ball and thus overplays the point, effectively blowing up the play and forcing the Jazz into a haphazard pick and roll which leads to the second point, where the Jazz' ballhandlers do not trust Kanter in any sense in the pick and roll and refuse to pass him the ball either when Kanter is rolling or when he pops out to sixteen feet, essentially making the point guard go one on two with the defense, often leading to turnovers and bad shots and a feeling that the Jazz are not getting one of their bigs the ball, a definite no-no for them, so they work hard on some possessions to get the ball, leading to the third point, which is the only time Kanter gets the ball, in the low post, he feels obligated to get a shot off, and he doesn't have the best PPP (points per possession) in the post, meaning he's inefficient down there.

Did that in one sentence. YEAH BABY!


Well put. I've wondered why Kanter won't try to pass it down there too. He just waits to hand it off. It's ok though. Genus young. He will learn. Better than being careless I guess.

And I think all sentences should be that long
 
Well put. I've wondered why Kanter won't try to pass it down there too. He just waits to hand it off. It's ok though. Genus young. He will learn. Better than being careless I guess.

And I think all sentences should be that long

He has graduated from hand offs to being able to make passes up to 5 feet away.
 
You really can't tell why?

Three main things. First, on the motion play, where the big gets the ball at top of key, Kanter refuses to make a pass to the cutter under the basket and rarely passes to that player when he comes around the other big pick a second later, and has to meekly pass back to the point, whose defender is wise to Kanter's inability to do anything pass related with the ball and thus overplays the point, effectively blowing up the play and forcing the Jazz into a haphazard pick and roll which leads to the second point, where the Jazz' ballhandlers do not trust Kanter in any sense in the pick and roll and refuse to pass him the ball either when Kanter is rolling or when he pops out to sixteen feet, essentially making the point guard go one on two with the defense, often leading to turnovers and bad shots and a feeling that the Jazz are not getting one of their bigs the ball, a definite no-no for them, so they work hard on some possessions to get the ball, leading to the third point, which is the only time Kanter gets the ball, in the low post, he feels obligated to get a shot off, and he doesn't have the best PPP (points per possession) in the post, meaning he's inefficient down there.

Did that in one sentence. YEAH BABY!

I thought about writing something besides, "who knows", but I didn't have the energy to go through all of the intricacies of the game when he's in, so thank you for saving me some time (in a mellifluous yet meandering manner)--rep.
 
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