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Lessons from SA Spurs? Thoughts?

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What do you guys think we can take away from our match up with the Spurs?

Mine is pretty simple. They have Duncan, Ginobli and Parker. 3 humble players who play fundamentally well and do the best they can in their given position. They're not flashy, or overly athletic. But they play to their full potential. They train hard during the offseason. They stick to their coach and system religiously. They play unselfishly.

That's what I think we could learn from them. We currently have 2 very talented young players in Favors and Hayward. Can they learn from Duncan and Ginobli respectively? If they can reach even just 85% of what Duncan and Ginobli can achieve, and may get KOC go get a solid young PG - I think we can become a pretty good team.

Thoughts?
 
Well here's what Jefferson's learned:

"We’re playing against a team that is at its peak, and I don’t see nobody beating ’em. … It’s a great team. I just take my hat off to ’em. Mad respect,"

"It gets to the point where you’re just playing a team that’s better than you; that know what it takes to win and know how to win," Jefferson said.


He added: "If you lose to a team because you didn’t play your best, that’s one thing. If you’re playing your best and doing everything that you can, and you’re just playing against a team that’s better than you, that’s another one."
 
Post-play without the other-things that it needs to flourish is rubbish. Jazz are missing too many other-things.
 
The lesson is as much for KOC and the FO as it is for Corbin and the young guys. We are starting 4 guys who have multiple years of experience in this league,3 of them have been to playoffs several times and a couple of them have been to the NBA Finals. I am not sure what is there for them to learn here. Its a bit too late. The lesson is for the bench guys and for the management besides the coach. How do you make the most out of your draft picks? How do you pick people who can actually make jumpshots and from beyond the arc? How do you supplement your aging playoffs core with crafty late additions like Stephen Jackson that gives you a chance to win? And so on..
It is a class/clinic that is simultaneously being conducted for both KOC/Miller as well as Corbin/Favors/Kanter/Burks/Hayward
 
vj_74 said:
The lesson is as much for KOC and the FO as it is for Corbin and the young guys. We are starting 4 guys who have multiple years of experience in this league,3 of them have been to playoffs several times and a couple of them have been to the NBA Finals. I am not sure what is there for them to learn here. Its a bit too late. The lesson is for the bench guys and for the management besides the coach. How do you make the most out of your draft picks? How do you pick people who can actually make jumpshots and from beyond the arc? How do you supplement your aging playoffs core with crafty late additions like Stephen Jackson that gives you a chance to win? And so on..
It is a class/clinic that is simultaneously being conducted for both KOC/Miller as well as Corbin/Favors/Kanter/Burks/Hayward
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Very nice.

If there's one issue I'd single out as a source of frustration for me with this organization has been it's failure to COMMIT to the 3-pointer. It really is so important. The Spurs are committed.

(This is a reason I waffle a little on Burks, but that's another topic)
 
NUMBERICA said:
They're better.
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This.

I've avoided coming here during the series because I figured that most of the comments and threads whaould be able why X player is bad and whatnot. I still stand by what I've said all year: Jefferson is a liability on both ends of the floor and Corbin will always be a second-rate NBA head coach.
 
This team needs to add talent.

Then again, I think that's something that should have already been blatantly obvious before the series. I really wanted to buy into the "rebuilding while remaining relevant" hype, but I was always a little skeptical. It's no secret that I would have liked for things to work out a little differently, but I still have faith in KOC to work some magic in the offseason, and he's going to need to if we want to have any chance of getting past the first round next year. Now is not the time to play it conservatively. I want to see a shake-up, and let the bodies fall where they may.
 
...I've learned that Josh Howard is so talented and valuable, we should do whatever it takes to resign him to a long term, lucrative contract....so no other team can sneak in there and steal him from under our nose!
 
I've learned that carolinajazz is so untalented and valueless, we should do whatever it takes to ban him forever...so no other posters have to endure his idiocy!
 
NUMBERICA said:
Very nice.

If there's one issue I'd single out as a source of frustration for me with this organization has been it's failure to COMMIT to the 3-pointer. It really is so important. The Spurs are committed.

(This is a reason I waffle a little on Burks, but that's another topic)
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agree. hayward and harris have improved but we still lack a deep threat on the wing.
spurs spread the floor and make you pay better than any recent championship teams.
 
salo said:
agree. hayward and harris have improved but we still lack a deep threat on the wing.
spurs spread the floor and make you pay better than any recent championship teams.
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That should be Burks #1 priority. Getting his shot down and extending it to 3 pt range.
 
I'm gong to get blasted for this, but the Spurs talent isn't that great. Besides the big three, most of them would be scrubs on other teams. What makes them great is they are committed to the three-point shot, they play great defense, and their spacing on the floor is amazing. It's pretty obvious that Ty is getting out coached in this series. I think this series shows how far Devin Harris is from being even an average point guard.
 
sojodave said:
I'm gong to get blasted for this, but the Spurs talent isn't that great. Besides the big three, most of them would be scrubs on other teams. What makes them great is they are committed to the three-point shot, they play great defense, and their spacing on the floor is amazing. It's pretty obvious that Ty is getting out coached in this series. I think this series shows how far Devin Harris is from being even an average point guard.
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Most of them are definitely scrubs, with the exception of the big three of course. The number one guy on the Spurs happens to be Popps.
Remember when Jerry Sloan took a team of old veteran scrubs to within an eyelash of the playoffs in the early 00's??
They have a great coach, and he knows how to play to each players individual strengths.
I'll bet you he has Matt Bonner and Steven Jackson shoot hundreds of 3 pointers per practice.
While Duncan is still fundamentally sound, playing primarily against a horrible defender such as Al Jefferson.
They set hard picks, come off of multiple screens, and run a killer pick and roll.
Sounds like Jerry Sloan basketball to me, and it's to bad Ty Corbin has abandoned most of what Sloan basketball used to mean.

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