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Al Jefferson's Rebounding (Article).

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Here's an article on Al's rebounding, and since the Jazz are not playing, I like to read this kind of crap (I actually like to even when they're playing). It's a good look at rebounding technique in general. Read if desire overcomes you to do so. It would be interesting to analyze how Favors and Kanter do in their technique. Favors seemed to really pick up his rebounding half way through the season. That is all.

https://www.slcdunk.com/2012/5/16/3025769/breaking-down-al-jeffersons-rebound-tactics-frame-by-frame
 
Didn't really read the article, but I know Al does a terrible job at boxing out often. He does have a canny ability at tipping balls to himself, which I think is his biggest rebounding strength.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Didn't really read the article, but I know Al does a terrible job at boxing out often. He does have a canny ability at tipping balls to himself, which I think is his biggest rebounding strength.
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Yep. He's not terrible at boxing out, he just doesn't. He's a ballerina rebounder.
 
PKM said:
Yep. He's not terrible at boxing out, he just doesn't. He's a ballerina rebounder.
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Far too many NBAers share that problem. Not sure why that's the case. Maybe in HS and college, they simply didn't have to.

I am confident that Favors and Kanter will be the best rebounding frontline in the NBA in two seasons. Subject to change, however, depending on where the unibrow lands.
 
PKM said:
Yep. He's not terrible at boxing out, he just doesn't. He's a ballerina rebounder.
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Definitely. A large part of the article talked about him watching the ball while it's in the air instead of boxing out.

What an improvement simple techniques could make on his game.

If only...
 
jope said:
Definitely. A large part of the article talked about him watching the ball while it's in the air instead of boxing out.

What an improvement simple techniques could make on his game.

If only...
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Willingness, motor, dirty work ..
 
PKM said:
Willingness, motor, dirty work ..
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Exactly. He is a lazy rebounder amongst other things. He would rather try to tip it to himself than actually put the effort into boxing his man out. It ultimately costs us, because the other team winds up with more offensive rebounds than they should. Is it too late to teach an old dog new tricks? Probably.
 
I believe he knows how. It's a matter of either a coaching staff unwilling to bench him or a conditioning issue, or both.

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PKM said:
I believe he knows how. It's a matter of either a coaching staff unwilling to bench him or a conditioning issue, or both.

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I should clarify my statement. I also believe he knows how. I think it is just an unwillingness on his part to do it. I agree, it is something that the coaches should get on him about and possibly even bench him for at times. This is of course if he is still here next year which seems likely.
 
Al does get nearly 10 rebounds per game. Let's not act like he is a terrible rebounder. He isn't perfect at it, but he is better than most.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Al does get nearly 10 rebounds per game. Let's not act like he is a terrible rebounder. He isn't perfect at it, but he is better than most.
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True, but shouldn't we hope for better? What kind of rebounder would he be if he wasn't lazy?
 
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He is a massively fundamentally flawed/lazy rebounder that still pulls down a good number. No one said he doesn't get any boards, Cy.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Al does get nearly 10 rebounds per game. Let's not act like he is a terrible rebounder. He isn't perfect at it, but he is better than most.
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OK,
1) He plays 35+ minutes a game.
2) He's in a system where offensive rebounds are in the system
3) The rebounds he gets are sometimes uncontested. A lot of the league is saying screw it to offensive rebounding and they instead just start running to the other part of the court.
 
Weezur said:
OK,
1) He plays 35+ minutes a game.
2) He's in a system where offensive rebounds are in the system
3) The rebounds he gets are sometimes uncontested. A lot of the league is saying screw it to offensive rebounding and they instead just start running to the other part of the court.
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1. He played 34.0 mpg this season.
2. Not sure what that means. Every team tries to offensive rebound if their players are good enough to rebound.
3. Kind of an unfair statement. He gets plenty of difficult rebounds. Every rebounder gets his fair share of easy ones, that is what all big men do.
 
I think Cy is trolling. Cy, do you think Al is good rebounder, irrespective of the number of rebounds? Yes or no?
 
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PKM said:
I think I can end this debate. Cy, do you think Al is good rebounder, irrespective of the number of rebounds? Yes or no?
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Good is a relative term.

Is he elite? No.
Is he above average and better than most starting big men? Yes.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Good is a relative term.

Is he elite? No.
Is he above average and better than most starting big men? Yes.
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No. He is not a better rebounder than most starting big men. I'm not couting the boards he gets, I'm talking about those that he could have gotten, but 'chose' not to REBOUND that hard. I think you're more counting how many balls he gets his hands on (that bounce his way) vs. how many he didn't get for standing around.
 
PKM said:
No. He is not a better rebounder than most starting big men. I'm not couting the boards he gets, I'm talking about those that he could have gotten, but 'chose' not to REBOUND that hard. I think you're more counting how many balls he gets his hands on (that bounce his way) vs. how many he didn't get for standing around.
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What about all the rebounds he gets that the opponents should have gotten because of the way he positions himself to the rim for rebounds (from the article)?

Also saying "bounce that way" is ridiculous. We have a huge sample size. He gets 9.6 a game consistently, not because he got lucky a few times.
 
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