What's new
By:

Marc Stein: Jazz-Warriors discuss pre-Lottery trade (Source says trade "likely")

The Thriller said:
I don't think you understand what the situation is.
Click to expand...

I do understand the situation. We're talking about the fact that the Ws pick next year(2013) is likely to be in the 10 - 14 range, even with their injury problems, meaning that re-negotiating the protection on that pick isn't likely going to net us anything.
 
I don't really understand why people are always comparing and weighing the worth of a certain pick number. Like saying, Nobody has ever been good at the 14th pick or whatever. You should be counting all the good players that have come after the 14th pick plus the 14th pick. It's up to you as a GM to make a good pick. Just because there are a lot of dumb GM's out there missing on these picks doesn't mean we will miss. Unless KOC screws it up.

I just think that is kind of a dumb way of looking at it. At the 14th pick you could have had the 15th pick and so on.
 
Catchall said:
I'm just saying, I don't see what the Ws have that would make us want to give up our chance at the pick. We've got nothing to lose by taking our swing with a .280 hitter, and we don't have much if anything to gain by making a deal with GSW, unless the Jazz are high on a player expected to be there at the last pick of the first round.
Click to expand...

This is what I've been saying since post #3. I know, for a fact, that the Jazz are REAL high on DMIller, JJenkins, and Jtaylor. TIFWIW.
 
Catchall said:
I do understand the situation. We're talking about the fact that the Ws pick next year(2013) is likely to be in the 10 - 14 range, even with their injury problems, meaning that re-negotiating the protection on that pick isn't likely going to net us anything.
Click to expand...

Bingo! Which is why I think asking for #30 and 35 and giving up #47 isn't an insane amount to guarantee they get #7 (or 8 or 9) this year.
 
BluesRocker said:
I don't really understand why people are always comparing and weighing the worth of a certain pick number. Like saying, Nobody has ever been good at the 14th pick or whatever. You should be counting all the good players that have come after the 14th pick plus the 14th pick. It's up to you as a GM to make a good pick. Just because there are a lot of dumb GM's out there missing on these picks doesn't mean we will miss. Unless KOC screws it up.

I just think that is kind of a dumb way of looking at it. At the 14th pick you could have had the 15th pick and so on.
Click to expand...

Damn, I may just die. GREAT post. Rep'd.
 
The Thriller said:
You provide the comparisons. You're the one that is supposed to prove your point. Prove to me why Marshall couldn't or wouldn't help us.

Again, if you don't think that Millsap is contributing or that having Matthews doesn't improve us, then you obviously haven't ever seen basketball. If you really don't think having Ibaka, Parker, Ginobli, etc wouldn't help us then you're a complete moron.

As far as getting any great players... Again, who is available at #8? When was Kobe Bryant drafted again?
Click to expand...

Wasn't kobe the one who threaten to go over seas if he wasn't drafted by the lakers? If you look on different web sites as far as kendall Marshall you can see the what he is being compared to. https://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Kendall-Marshall-5095/ for instance says his best case is Andre Miller and worst is Mark Jackson. We will still have our pick next year. It isn't like this year we are loosing out on something we already have.
 
shadler said:
Wasn't kobe the one who threaten to go over seas if he wasn't drafted by the lakers? If you look on different web sites as far as kendall Marshall you can see the what he is being compared to. https://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Kendall-Marshall-5095/ for instance says his best case is Andre Miller and worst is Mark Jackson. We will still have our pick next year. It isn't like this year we are loosing out on something we already have.
Click to expand...

Uh, mark Jackson was a better player than Andre Miller so that makes no sense.
 
The more I think about it, it's probably more likely that the timeframe for receiving the pick would be lengthened, than having GS remove the protection from it.

So maybe we get #30 #35 and a couple more years are tacked on to the time we could get the pick.

I think GS considers themselves a playoff contender, but its too risky for them to make the pick unprotected.

Also, I am definitely in the group that thinks we have all of the leverage and that a 28% chance at the 8th pick might be more valuable than a bunch of spare parts.
 
Catchall said:
I'm just saying, I don't see what the Ws have that would make us want to give up our chance at the pick. We've got nothing to lose by taking our swing with a .280 hitter, and we don't have much if anything to gain by making a deal with GSW, unless the Jazz are high on a player expected to be there at the last pick of the first round.

Edit: So you weigh the value of backing out of the #8 pick this year vs. the value of lowering pick protection next year. I'd rather take door #1 because we have a shot at a good player at #8.
Click to expand...

I agree with this guy. Someone get him a cookie.

I like the baseball reference. It makes our odds sound a lot better.

Side note. Your avatar matches your name. Anytime you change it, you should stick to the same theme.
 
PKM said:
This. We were there in the first half of page #1 and still trying to defend/persuade at page #here.
Click to expand...

Right. That's a tough call for me, but I'm the guy saying if you have a chance at a #8 pick in this draft, you'd better take it.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Share this page
Back
Top