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Are we a shot blocking big man away from contention?

We were a shot blocking big man away from contention the past 3 years, tell us something we didnt already know...

Gasol = Perfect but highly, highly doubtful (Millsap & our '13 1st round pick wont get it done)
Memo for Okafor = Dont want to take on the add'l 2 years of his monster contract
Bogut = See comments above for Gasol
Kaman = unlikely but mmm... Memo/Milsap (give them depth, Memo/Griffin/Millsap/Jordan??)
Gortat = I'd rather let Fes get those minutes & it'll be more fun watching Fes' development than cursing Gorat's contract (unless we trade Millsap for a future 1st & use our Harping PTE on him, cause spending 13M annually on 2 backup big men isn't financially wise)
Chandler = My person from the start!! KOC should've expanded the Jefferson trade for this (MIN gets: PTE/KoKo/3 1st (our's unconditional, CHA conditional) & CHA gets: Memo/Sessions & UTA gets: Jefferson/Chandler... yes this could've worked if MIN trades the PTE in a seperate deal). Chander is long, active, contract comes off after this season (saving $ if we'd kept Memo), & would've prevented DAL from getting Chandler (he w/ Haywood make a DAL better).
 
Frankly Jazz said:
Marc Gasol is a free agent next year and the Jazz will have some $$$!
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Sorry to break it but w/ the addition of Jefferson, we WONT have money next year (Memo). This was why I kept on pushing for Chandler this year...

BTW, Gasol is a RFA so they could match anything we offer.
 
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PrinceJL said:
Gasol = Perfect but highly, highly doubtful (Millsap & our '13 1st round pick wont get it done)
Memo for Okafor = Dont want to take on the add'l 2 years of his monster contract
Bogut = See comments above for Gasol
Kaman = unlikely but mmm... Memo/Milsap (give them depth, Memo/Griffin/Millsap/Jordan??)
Gortat = I'd rather let Fes get those minutes & it'll be more fun watching Fes' development than cursing Gorat's contract (unless we trade Millsap for a future 1st & use our Harping PTE on him, cause spending 13M annually on 2 backup big men isn't financially wise)
Chandler = My person from the start!! KOC should've expanded the Jefferson trade for this (MIN gets: PTE/KoKo/3 1st (our's unconditional, CHA conditional) & CHA gets: Memo/Sessions & UTA gets: Jefferson/Chandler... yes this could've worked if MIN trades the PTE in a seperate deal). Chander is long, active, contract comes off after this season (saving $ if we'd kept Memo), & would've prevented DAL from getting Chandler (he w/ Haywood make a DAL better).
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Good list. I'd love to see most any of those guys in a Jazz uniform. I don't see the Jazz picking Gasol, Bogut, or Kaman this year, because they wouldn't get traded. Gasol might be worth a big offer next year though after the lockout ends.

Gortat and Okafor are sort of overrated. They would be improvements over what we already have, but I don't think enough to make us a contender.

Chandler would be interesting, but hasn't he had a lot of injury problems over the past few years? Could probably add Yao Ming to that list too, as he becomes a free agent next year... but I'd categorize him in the "too risky" bin along with Chandler.

Until the next free agent period rolls around, I think all we can do is hope that Fess cut back on the marlboros and learned how to rebound... or just hope the lakers lose a big man to injury during the playoffs.
 
Mambo said:
Day we get Marc Gasol is the day Mitt Romney Becomes president.
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I like the comparison, but can you be more specific? Did you mean Marc will come to UTah on the day of the General Election, when the Electoral College meets, or on the Day Mitt is sworn in?
 
Are we a shot blocking big man away from contention?
Probably, but it's been that way 3 of the past 4 years.
 
X SgtPancakes X said:
Agreed!!
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If the 2.12 bp48m the younger Gasol averaged, so much of an improvement then the 1.81 bp48m that Okur averaged going to make a difference between the Jazz making the play-off's and going on until they get eliminated by the Lakers and the Jazz becoming NBA champions then basketball is realy more of a game of details then I knew it to be.
 
WinningUgly said:
If the 2.12 bp48m the younger Gasol averaged, so much of an improvement then the 1.81 bp48m that Okur averaged going to make a difference between the Jazz making the play-off's and going on until they get eliminated by the Lakers and the Jazz becoming NBA champions then basketball is realy more of a game of details then I knew it to be.
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It's more along the lines that basketball--and even defense, even paint defense--is more than shotblocking.

MG also rebounds and passes at a higher rate. Okur, of course, has the edge on the long-range jumper.

Not sure how much better M. Gasol is than Okur is, but being five years younger helps.
 
Depth at point guard is one of the biggest needs keeping the team away from contention. A serviceable #2 PG wouldn't break the bank and is sorely needed. Gaines and Price just don't cut it as #2. AK makes a better backout point than either of them and that is saying a lot. I wonder if Hayward could develop well enoungh to take the point for 5-10 minutes a game in a year or two. He already seems to have better court vision than Gaines or Price and is a decent passer. His height could be an asset too as long as he doesn't get turnover happy.
 
A very good perimeter player who can shoot, create his own shot, and get to the line in bunches is on virtually every championship team in recent memory. Jordan and Pippen. Drexler. Wade. Rip. Manu. Kobe.

I don't see Deron becoming that guy so we need Miles and/or Hayward to step the **** up.
 
default said:
Depth at point guard is one of the biggest needs keeping the team away from contention. A serviceable #2 PG wouldn't break the bank and is sorely needed. Gaines and Price just don't cut it as #2. AK makes a better backout point than either of them and that is saying a lot. I wonder if Hayward could develop well enoungh to take the point for 5-10 minutes a game in a year or two. He already seems to have better court vision than Gaines or Price and is a decent passer. His height could be an asset too as long as he doesn't get turnover happy.
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IAWTP.
Deron is worn out and beaten up late in the season. He should average no more than 35 mins/per. And he should be able to take more of a rest when he's hurt. Instead, he's often forced back into games late because Price/Gaines can't be trusted to protect a lead. Or, returning in the 2nd/4th, Deron has to make up the ground the 2nd unit has lost. Ronnie and Sundiata are nice guys, but both are no better than 3rd-stringers.

AS for a "shot-blocker," what we really need is a defender. IF he blocks a couple of shots, great. But even more importnat is just holding postion down low and getting in the way. Fes could be that guy. He's big enough. But he's just not motivated enough to be a consitent defensive force. It's a shame, really. He could easily earn $7-8M/yr with just a medium amount of dedication added to the bulk he already has.
 
It looks like we have to rely on Fes to be the guy. If he can reach his potential the Jazz will be looking good and will have solved their problem from within. Otherwise we are at the mercy of the draft and FA. It's a tough situation with Utah not being the most desirable location for FAs. I'd like to see a Yao or Gasol in a Jazz uni if possible, but again, it's unlikely.
 
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