Orrin Hatch destroys Dan

[Stoked]

No offense, but I find it a bit frighting that any state would elect the same guy to the Senate for what will probably be over 40 years.

You are in no way alone in that feeling.

 

[HipHopAnonymous]

No offense, but I find it a bit frighting that any state would elect the same guy to the Senate for what will probably be over 40 years.

Byrd (WV) was in there for 57 years.
Daniel Inouye Hawaii has been in for close to 50 years

17 total 6 term (6 years) senators in history. Hatch is the next one it looks like.

 

[nightmare3983]

I am amused that the platform I seemed to hear most that Hatch is running on is "I've been there 36 years. I have seniority." Yeah. Nothing about what I do, just that you should vote for me not because of anything I do, just that I'm a career politician.

Is that any worse than people wanting to get rid of Hatch just because he's been in office a long time and not because of what he's done or hasn't done?

 

[Darkwing Duck]

Is that any worse than people wanting to get rid of Hatch just because he's been in office a long time and not because of what he's done or hasn't done?

One of the most revered politician in American History and its first president made it a point that a career in politics was not the American ideal, even when given the chance to be president essentially for life, so yes, it is worse.

 

[nightmare3983]

Is that any worse than people wanting to get rid of Hatch just because he's been in office a long time and not because of what he's done or hasn't done?

One of the most revered politician in American History and its first president made it a point that a career in politics was not the American ideal, even when given the chance to be president essentially for life, so yes, it is worse.

Washington also wasn't a big fan of political parties, which are worse now than in Washington's time. Does that make any politician bad for being part of a political party?

 

[Darkwing Duck]

Washington also wasn't a big fan of political parties, which are worse now than in Washington's time. Does that make any politician bad for being part of a political party?

Being part of a political party, no. Toeing the party line, yes. This whole thing about politician's voting record being analyzed via a percentage of the party line, and the closer to 100% the better, is bad.

 

[nightmare3983]

Washington also wasn't a big fan of political parties, which are worse now than in Washington's time. Does that make any politician bad for being part of a political party?

Being part of a political party, no. Toeing the party line, yes. This whole thing about politician's voting record being analyzed via a percentage of the party line, and the closer to 100% the better, is bad.

I definitely agree with that. I'm definitely not a fan of career politicians, but I'm also not a fan of people wanting to get rid of someone just because he/she has been in too long. That's not a valid reason to me. Nor is running solely on the platform of "I have seniority". I really would like to see some term limits put in place. That way nobody could be too powerful for too long of a time.

 

[One Brow]

Terms limits reduces the power of the individual politician, but the power will still be there in the government, just wielded by someone else (staffer, lobbyist, etc.). At least the politician is a public face on that power.

 

[franklin]

I am no Hatch lover, but he is actually going to be the chair on the finance committee which could be a very good thing both locally and nationally.

No offense to you personally or anything, but it drives me nuts when people who know nothing about banking and high finance think Orrin Hatch can serve us well in this position. IMO, he's nothing short of a fruit cake when it comes to everything finance committee related.

One of the most revered politician in American History and its first president made it a point that a career in politics was not the American ideal, even when given the chance to be president essentially for life, so yes, it is worse.

The founding fathers were all career politicians.
Jefferson left office in 1809.
Madison 1817.
Ben Franklin was a politician for 10 solid centuries before the Constitution.
John Adams was 66 when he left office.
Samuel Adams served Mass. from at least 1766 to 1797.

 

[Darkwing Duck]

The founding fathers were all career politicians.
Jefferson left office in 1809.
Madison 1817.
Ben Franklin was a politician for 10 solid centuries before the Constitution.
John Adams was 66 when he left office.
Samuel Adams served Mass. from at least 1766 to 1797.

How long did they serve the United States? Were they the same roles?

 

[Chad Feldheimer]

The founding fathers were all career politicians.
Jefferson left office in 1809.
Madison 1817.
Ben Franklin was a politician for 10 solid centuries before the Constitution.
John Adams was 66 when he left office.
Samuel Adams served Mass. from at least 1766 to 1797.

I have no problem with career politicians. Just 2 terms per job like the president. Hatch can still run for President, House, Hamburgler or whatever. Just no more 30 year Senators.

 

[Darkwing Duck]

I have no problem with career politicians. Just 2 terms per job like the president. Hatch can still run for President, House, Hamburgler or whatever. Just no more 30 year Senators.

I'm even willing to allow for 3 term senators.