Jazz May Be A Part of 3-Team Deal w/ Clippers

[NUMBERICA]

but george hill is good enough to net you the first pick outside the lottery? explain that logic to me.

Serious?

1) George Hill is (and was) a better player
2) George Hill is a significantly younger/more inexperienced player
3) Last year was much more of a buyer's market than this year
4) There wasn't a stink on Hill that the Spurs had been shopping him for the better part of his tenure
5) George Hill is (and was) a better player

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

but george hill is good enough to net you the first pick outside the lottery? explain that logic to me.

George Hill is younger and on a really cheap contract.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

you're proving my point. harris is clearly better than george hill or chase budinger, who are role players at best. so if those two guys can get you 15-18 straight up, devin can buy you a late lotto pick.

I think Harris on his own could come into play around #8 (Tor.) or #10 (NOH) if a big name draftee doesn't fall. Harris gained some momentum with the Jazz's late-season run. If I were New Orleans, I'd consider #10 for Harris if I thought he fit in. The Hornets aren't going to get Lillard and Marshall isn't attractive at #10. Portland #11 would a possibility as well. The issue is that the Mo Williams situation might not be resolved in time for the draft.

I would say though that if the Clippers are willing to trade Mo Williams for Lamar Odom, who has become persona non grata after his stint in Dallas, it's probably time for Mo Williams to move on. The question his agent has to be asking though is--what he could net in free agency this year if he opts out of his deal? Is it worth turning down $8.5M for this season?

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

okay, thanks nerd. i'm done with this convo because, well, quite frankly, i'm too excited about the notion of getting the 17th pick when the truth is, that has not been mentioned once in any press release regarding the trade.

peace out. i'm gonna go run some errands and come back later. crossing my fingers but i bet we get #60 from the lakers and maybe a future 2nd from them or dallas.

 

[theNBAnerd]

Serious?

1) George Hill is (and was) a better player
2) George Hill is a significantly younger/more inexperienced player
3) Last year was much more of a buyer's market than this year
4) George Hill is (and was) a better player

do you really believe hill is/was better?! holy crap. this guy doesn't even close games for his team, and in san antonio he wasn't even a starter. harris > hill, and anybody that believes differently is just too used to picking apart harris because we see him more often than we see the other guy.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Because as nerd so obviously pointed out, we shouldn't be helping out our competitors simply for the sake of being nice. mo improves us yes, and we get what, one or two more wins next year maybe? so what.

We are helping our team too.

Our biggest weakness is outside shooting. Mo Will is a 39% career 3pt shooter. What don't you understand about this? We are getting a career 39% 3pt shooter for nothing. He might be a little overpaid, but it isn't hurting us long term.

 

[billyshelby]

The 17 in this deal is a pipe dream. That would be the equivalent of Cuban selling the 17 for 3 million. He's not doing that.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

When Harris is 'on,' he's a better player than George Hill. The question is whether he's dialed in and whether he fits with the team.

 

[theNBAnerd]

devin harris' career PER is almost 18 and has been as high as 21. george hill's highest year was barely over league average (15.7) and he was coming off the bench for 25 mpg and not even closing playoff games.

hill>harris?! ridonk.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Before we get too excited about trading Harris, keep in mind that if we did this deal it could mean we're trading Earl Watson in the Sixers' scenario.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

The 17 in this deal is a pipe dream. That would be the equivalent of Cuban selling the 17 for 3 million. He's not doing that.

I would be ecstatic. 3pt shooter who can play + 17th pick in strong draft for nothing? It just isn't realistic though. Maybe a 2nd rounder.

 

[default]

I think Harris on his own could come into play around #8 (Tor.) or #10 (NOH) if a big name draftee doesn't fall. Harris gained some momentum with the Jazz's late-season run. If I were New Orleans, I'd consider #10 for Harris if I thought he fit in. The Hornets aren't going to get Lillard and Marshall isn't attractive at #10. Portland #11 would a possibility as well. The issue is that the Mo Williams situation might not be resolved in time for the draft.

I would say though that if the Clippers are willing to trade Mo Williams for Lamar Odom, who has become persona non grata after his stint in Dallas, it's probably time for Mo Williams to move on. The question his agent has to be asking though is--what he could net in free agency this year if he opts out of his deal? Is it worth turning down $8.5M for this season?

If the New Orleans #10 pick were in play for the Jazz for a player straight up, I think it would be Al Jefferson rather than Harris that they would want. Anthony Davis should be a great all around player, but he is not a scorer as a big man, but scoring is Al's strength as a big man. Those two would compliment each other well.