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billyshelby said:
The whole thinking of "what Mo could mean to us" has to stop. That's not relevant to the deal. The only thing relevant is about equalizing value. The Clippers get Odom for Mo -- win. Dallas saves 3 million getting rid of Odom for free -- win. But they can't "win" if we don't use our TPE for Mo.

Our TPE is worth something. And it's not the sticker price on overpaid Mo. In this case, it's the price of facilitating the deal for our rivals. In other cases, it's absorbing somebody else's unwanted for another asset.

So if we don't get something, it's not worth it to give up our TPE for Mo.
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Getting Odom is a win? You can't be serious? Sounds like a desperate attempt to add a player.

Dallas saves 3 million? Is that really enough for us to not do a deal? Because someone saves 3 million?

We add a good player for free, it's worth it.
 
billyshelby said:
The whole thinking of "what Mo could mean to us" has to stop. That's not relevant to the deal. The only thing relevant is about equalizing value. The Clippers get Odom for Mo -- win. Dallas saves 3 million getting rid of Odom for free -- win. But they can't "win" if we don't use our TPE for Mo.

Our TPE is worth something. And it's not the sticker price on overpaid Mo. In this case, it's the price of facilitating the deal for our rivals. In other cases, it's absorbing somebody else's unwanted for another asset.

So if we don't get something, it's not worth it to give up our TPE for Mo.
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I trust u know what ur talking about Best so can we still bakc out Of the trade and Do TPE for someone else? Whats the cap?
 
billyshelby said:
The whole thinking of "what Mo could mean to us" has to stop. That's not relevant to the deal. The only thing relevant is about equalizing value. The Clippers get Odom for Mo -- win. Dallas saves 3 million getting rid of Odom for free -- win. But they can't "win" if we don't use our TPE for Mo.

Our TPE is worth something. And it's not the sticker price on overpaid Mo. In this case, it's the price of facilitating the deal for our rivals. In other cases, it's absorbing somebody else's unwanted for another asset.

So if we don't get something, it's not worth it to give up our TPE for Mo.
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That's what I was thinking too.

But I've come to realized that may be the price we pay is to get back KOC's pride for letting Mo go in 2004.
 
billyshelby said:
The whole thinking of "what Mo could mean to us" has to stop. That's not relevant to the deal. The only thing relevant is about equalizing value. The Clippers get Odom for Mo -- win. Dallas saves 3 million getting rid of Odom for free -- win. But they can't "win" if we don't use our TPE for Mo.

Our TPE is worth something. And it's not the sticker price on overpaid Mo. In this case, it's the price of facilitating the deal for our rivals. In other cases, it's absorbing somebody else's unwanted for another asset.

So if we don't get something, it's not worth it to give up our TPE for Mo.
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Anyone arguing otherwise just got pwned
 
You do realize that if you use the TPE on anyone, you are helping that team out by saving them money? I consider giving a team Lamar Odom to be helping us.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Getting Odom is a win? You can't be serious? Sounds like a desperate attempt to add a player.

Dallas saves 3 million? Is that really enough for us to not do a deal? Because someone saves 3 million?

We add a good player for free, it's worth it.
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Getting Odom FOR Williams is a win

Dallas saving 3 million is a win, particularly in light of their obvious desperation to shed salary.

This isn't about getting a good player "for free." It would be if getting Mo Williams was the same value as LA getting Odom or Dallas shedding 3 million off their bloated cap. But Williams is poison on the trade market thanks to his salary. The Clips are stuck with him. And Dallas should be stuck with having to just waive Odom and take the 3 mil cap hit.

So why are we pretending that we should be happy to just get Mo?
 
billyshelby said:
Getting Odom FOR Williams is a win

Dallas saving 3 million is a win, particularly in light of their obvious desperation to shed salary.

This isn't about getting a good player "for free." It would be if getting Mo Williams was the same value as LA getting Odom or Dallas shedding 3 million off their bloated cap. But Williams is poison on the trade market thanks to his salary. The Clips are stuck with him. And Dallas should be stuck with having to just waive Odom and take the 3 mil cap hit.

So why are we pretending that we should be happy to just get Mo?
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Yes. Getting Mo is good.
 
Saltair's Finest said:
I trust u know what ur talking about Best so can we still bakc out Of the trade and Do TPE for someone else? Whats the cap?
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This could be a long answer. But the short answer is: 1) Yes, we can still back out; 2) Yes, we can use the TPE for many things; 3) Acquiring Mo Williams with our TPE without getting something back is what Isiah Thomas would do.

The Cap is something you're going to have to figure out.
 
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