starting to get More into politics now That i can vote

[franklin]

let's just say that the 'real world' is corrupt enough that neither really works

This is simply not true.

 

[northeast]

my biggest gripe is the subsidy of Wall Street , the biggest parasites on the planet, which PKM I am guessing you are not part of, especially since you say you are lending your own money.

Are you are a banker or loan officer, entrepreneur, venture capitalist, or what?

 

[Dr. Jones]

my biggest gripe is the subsidy of Wall Street , the biggest parasites on the planet, which PKM I am guessing you are not part of.

Are you are a banker or loan officer, entrepreneur, or what?

That I agree with.

 

[Dr. Jones]

This is simply not true.

I'm so not in the mood to debate this topic, so forgive me .. But please tell me one place we can funnel dollars to that is void of corruption.

 

[Stoked]

I'm so not in the mood to debate this topic, so forgive me .. But please tell me one place we can funnel dollars to that is void of corruption.

I am currently accepting donations...

 

[Dr. Jones]

my biggest gripe is the subsidy of Wall Street , the biggest parasites on the planet, which PKM I am guessing you are not part of, especially since you say you are lending your own money.

Are you are a banker or loan officer, entrepreneur, venture capitalist, or what?

And actually mine was a hypothetical .. I really don't lend money. I typically only invest in ventures that I directly control. I hate having someone elses intellect and drive determine my returns .. but I know most don't operate that way.

 

[Dr. Jones]

I am currently accepting donations...

hahaha .. well, that's one place, I spose.

 

[Dr. Jones]

The money should go into the economy at large.

- food stamps (no room to suggest corruption? You don't think this empowers people to just sit? Not stereotyping .. so don't go there)- unemployment benefits (see above)
- schooling (if handled properly, YES!
- jobs programs (defined by? This another potential good one)
- public infrastructure (TONS of corruption, both by corporations and government .. first hand knowledge)
If anything, in times of crisis like 2008, the rich should be more than willing to pay for the government stimulus that saved their margins from going negative or businesses outright collapsing.

Who is the 'rich?' Those that directy received bail-out should pay it back .. 100%. The rich in general, though, shouldn't have to pay in anymore (as a %) than anyone else, imo.

 

[Scat]

Facts:
1. All sports team owners are subsidized.
2. All sports owners are rich.
3. Many cities have republican governments.

Conclusion: Republicans support subsidies, IF (and only if) they are for rich people.

Your logic is faulty. Based on your "facts" there is no way to determine whether Repubs do or do not support subsidies for poor people.

 

[Dr. Jones]

Your logic is faulty. Based on your "facts" there is no way to determine whether Repubs do or do not support subsidies for poor people.

#3 was just oddly worded/placed.

 

[northeast]

Who is the 'rich?' Those that directy received bail-out should pay it back .. 100%. The rich in general, though, shouldn't have to pay in anymore (as a %) than anyone else, imo.

What if someone gets a zero percent interest loan, and uses it to buy assets at 10 cents on the dollar in a crisis he helped create, while benefiting from inside information from his contacts in Congress and banking regulators, while leveraged up 30 to 1 and risking none of his own money. When he pays back his zero percent loan, is it all even?

 

[northeast]

Your logic is faulty. Based on your "facts" there is no way to determine whether Repubs do or do not support subsidies for poor people.

My logic is not faulty. i did not say what you said I said in the quote you quoted.
However, elsewhere, a Republican, Beantown I think it was, said that he resented subsidies to poor people, while not showing any similar resentment over subsidies to rich people.
I think this is a common Republican attitude.