Doesn't baseball send eight teams, and the NFL twelve? I would say that argues for roughly equal competitive balance, slighty more balanced in football.
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Doesn't baseball send eight teams, and the NFL twelve? I would say that argues for roughly equal competitive balance, slighty more balanced in football.
nah, irrelevant...
tell us which leagues have the most different teams making it into the finals over a given period of time.
From 1990 to 2011, Football has had much greater competitiveness than basketball, looking at championships.
13 different teams won in football, 8 in basketball.
There were only 3 repeats in football, 9 in basketball.
The top 3 football teams won 9, the top 3 bball teams won 15,
which means the ring was NOT won by a top 3 team in football
in 13 of 22 years, versus only 7 of 22 years in bball, almost twice as often.
13 different teams won in football, 8 in basketball.
There were only 3 repeats in football, 9 in basketball.
The top 3 football teams won 9, the top 3 bball teams won 15,
which means the ring was NOT won by a top 3 team in football
in 13 of 22 years, versus only 7 of 22 years in bball, almost twice as often.
HipHopAnonymous
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So you aren't considered competitve if you don't make the finals every year?
carolinajazz
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...they should have locked all these clowns out for the whole year....and then some! They should have waited till they got EVERYTHING they wanted, hard cap, reduced salaries, no guaranteed contracts, minimum of 2 years in college....and most importantly....no VISIBLE tattoo's!
HipHopAnonymous
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Last 12 years.
Patriots 5 Super Bowls (3 titles), Steelers 3 (2 titles,), Colts 2 (1), Giants 2 (2), Packers 1 (1), Saints 1 (1), Cardinals 1, Bears 1, Seahawks 1, Eagles 1, Panthers 1, Bucs 1 (1), Ravens 1 (1), Raiders 1, Rams 1. = 15 different teams.
Yankees 4 (2 titles), Red Sox 2 (2), Cardinals 2 (2), Phillies 2 (1), Giants 2 (1), Rangers 2, White Sox 1 (1), Marlins 1 (1), Angels 1 (1), Diamondbacks 1 (1), Mets 1, Astros 1, Rockies 1, Rays 1, Tigers 1. = 15 different teams.
Dead even if you just consider different teams making the championships.
HipHopAnonymous
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Last 13
Lakers 7 (5), Spurs 3 (3), Heat 3 (2), Celtics 2 (1), Pistons 2 (1), Nets 2, Mavericks 1 (1), Cavs 1, Magic 1, Sixers 1, Pacers 1, Thunder 1 = 12 different teams
freakazoid
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There is absolutely no truth to this. There have always been ring chasers, and just because the NBA doesn't control player movement down to every last single player, doesn't mean they didn't make a lot of progress with the last CBA. All you have to do is look at Dallas, and what happened to them after winning a title. You can't point to Miami, and then completely ignore the fact that Cuban was unable to have his cake, and eat it, too.
People should keep in mind that a lot of the additional tax payer limitations don't even kick in until next year. Just because competitive balance didn't happen overnight, doesn't mean the new CBA didn't make a lot of progress. It did.
Stifle Tower
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Dallas didn't implode because of the CBA. It was a calculated gamble on the part of Cuban to get DWill and Howard to join Nowitzki. To do that, he had to clear salary space, just like Miami did prior to having DWade, Lebron and Bosh sign. Had those 3 gone elsewhere, Miami would have been decimated, and probably turned to Boozer and others as their second options.
freakazoid
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Well, you're half right. I wasn't trying to say Dallas imploded simply because of the new CBA. Cuban did take a calculated gamble, but the new CBA was most definitely a factor in why he chose to take that gamble, when he could have made a run at another championship . The situation with Miami is completely different, because they didn't break up a championship team to gamble on those players. Clearing cap space isn't a big deal, unless you're breaking up a championship team to do it, then it kinda is.
I was resonding to the idea that super teams are going to take over the league, and that the new CBA didn't do anything to change it. If that was the case, then Cuban could have just kept his championship team together, and just waited for all the ring chasers to come play there for the minimum. There are some very good reasons why he didn't do that. He didn't throw away another chance at a title just because he wanted to go after certain players. Part of it was that, and the other part was because he would've been ****ed when the new rules kick in next year.