No BYU-Utah Rivalry Football Games in 2014 or 2015

[Chad Feldheimer]

You can read into whatever you like and I'd expect nothing less of someone who obviously views the world through rose-colored glasses.

But it's a fact that if BYU would've been willing to make some concessions that they could've gone to a big conference decades ago.

I know that kills you. I know you feel that it slights your beloved Utes somehow. But in reality it doesn't. That is no slight on the Pac10/Utah or BYU. But you won't see that. You've got to put in your two cents on everything and make sure BYU looks as bad as possible and Utah looks as good as possible. No problem this is who you are.

What kind of concessions could they have made do you think?

 

[CONAN]

What kind of concessions could they have made do you think?

Sunday play. And I don't think it was that big a deal (as was said in the article). I think it was more about the Pac10 being bigger than BYU (which they were and are). Why should a conference cowtow to a single college (maybe Nortre Dame)?

My guess is it went something like this:

Pac10: Hey, BYU, we are interested but you need to give a little for this to happen.
BYU: Nope.
Pac10. GFY then.

 

[7StraightIsGreat]

You can read into whatever you like and I'd expect nothing less of someone who obviously views the world through rose-colored glasses.

But it's a fact that if BYU would've been willing to make some concessions that they could've gone to a big conference decades ago.

I know that kills you. I know you feel that it slights your beloved Utes somehow. But in reality it doesn't. That is no slight on the Pac10/Utah or BYU. But you won't see that. You've got to put in your two cents on everything and make sure BYU looks as bad as possible and Utah looks as good as possible. No problem this is who you are.

Not suprising. When you get backed into a corner thanks to your own doing, you deflect and attack the poster instead of staying on topic. You implied BYU had opportunities to join a big conference decades ago. Im just asking for actual evidence. The 1 article you've posted gave speculation that some schools had interest in adding BYU to the PAC, but the overall consensus was that BYU would never get in. So I ask again: Where are these "decades" worth of opportunities? Not really interested in arguing with you any further. Either supply something to back up your claim, or for the love of god, please stop typing.

Thanks in advance.

 

[gregbroncs]

Sorry

That article pretty much torched your argument and backed Chad's and Jazzman12's. It definitely does not show that BYU could have been in the PAC if they wanted to. They were not invited. They may have had talks but it does not say that they could have been in.

 

[CONAN]

Not suprising. When you get backed into a corner thanks to your own doing, you deflect and attack the poster instead of staying on topic. You implied BYU had opportunities to join a big conference decades ago. Im just asking for actual evidence. The 1 article you've posted gave speculation that some schools had interest in adding BYU to the PAC, but the overall consensus was that BYU would never get in. So I ask again: Where are these "decades" worth of opportunities? Not really interested in arguing with you any further. Either supply something to back up your claim, or for the love of god, please stop typing.

Thanks in advance.

Like I said, rose-colored glasses. Keep on hatin, Son. I love that it kills you anytime there is even a chance of BYU looking good and that you spend so much energy trying to make them look bad. That's sad and miserable but entertaining from my end.

Keep typing. Thanks in advance.

 

[CONAN]

That article pretty much torched your argument and backed Chad's and Jazzman12's. It definitely does not show that BYU could have been in the PAC if they wanted to. They were not invited. They may have had talks but it does not say that they could have been in.

As usual, you honks are going to read into what you want. The truth is the truth. Sorry 3rd placers.

 

[green]

If this is already posted, my bad -- but it sums it up pretty well. https://www.deseretnews.com/article...eir-culture-in-suspending-rivalry.html?pg=all

This article is P-A-T-H-E-T-I-C. Seriously. Who do you blow for your rep points, because you just lost all credibility believing something like this. We have got to meet up, because I have some magic juice to sell you. Ha ha. I can't believe you posted this.

First comparing all this to COMMUNISM. Next, BYU wouldn't play on Sunday, so they didn't get into the PAC-12? LOL. If you believe this, you skipped past the Jeff Foxworthy "you might be..." and jumped straight to "Here's your sign."

First, name one thing BYU football has done this CENTURY. Beating a crappy Oklahoma team? That's about it. Good for you. Look at Utah:

Two BCS games
The best head coach in football (Urban)
A top 5 coach in football (Whitt)
Assistant coaches that have become head coaches (Chow, Mullen, Sanford) plus multiple coaches that have risen up the ranks.
The NUMBER ONE overall pick in the NFL draft
Only eight teams have more BCS wins than Utah in the country
etc, etc, etc

"BYU has the better overall program." This is a joke. 7 out of 10, 3 out of 4, 54-10. No one cares about men's volleyball. Sorry. Or jumping over hurdles into water. People only care about football, and BYU plays 2-3 real teams a year, and usually loses to all of them. You think Utah struggled last year in the PAC-12? What would BYU have done? LOL.

Like I have said before, cougar fan, you have no ground to stand on (when your team's accomplishments are older than your current players, they aren't accomplishments anymore), you are a jerk to everyone you talk to (see Rocky Long's reactions to BYU, SDSU, Bronco refusing to play along in traditions decades old, BYU fan talking out his *** when he says that if Riley played last year, BYU would have won, etc, etc, etc), and YOU SUCK AT FOOTBALL. You struggle against Utah State, a 7-6 WAC team. You go to the Big 12 and give them demands and then cry bigotry when they kick you to the curb. YOU ARE PATHETIC.

p.s. ND doesn't like you. You are their patsy they fit in between B1G schools. Congrats. They view you the same way USC view SJSU.

 

[green]

So, 100+ years of tradition and dedication to those ideals goes right out the window simply because you're ashamed that your team sold out? Why, I can't believe that you would sink this low. Truly saddening.

100 years of tradition? You mean the fact that we destroy you in this rivalry, and other than a good coach, your record against us is pathetic? 55-34, buddy. 7 of the last 10. Three of the last four. It seems like things are settling back into what has happened over the majority of that 100 year rivalry.

 

[green]

Awww, shiii, doe. Question, are you the tool I saw today in a Tundra with PUD12 stickers all over it? Which is it, fan of the conference, or a fan of the Utes? Did you even know they are partners now? (as in, they sleep together and do other homoerotic things after they bong 12 Keystones)

Are you the BYU fan that I see with the Big 12 stickers on his car? At least Utah fan is in IN the PAC-12.

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/birmingham-billboard.jpg

 

[green]

If money was first at BYU they could've been in a bigger conference decades ago. I know that kills you but sorry it's true. Money is certainly a factor but it's not THE factor like it is at Utah. There's nothing wrong with that. It's not like one side is wrong and the other side is right. They are different types of schools.

I don't understand why Utah honks always fight against that truth. Talk about being intellectually dishonest.

What conference is that? The PAC-12 has NEVER seriously looked at you, although you guys tried your best to join their conference in the 90's. The Big 12 looked at you, but Baylor forced you out. Which conference exactly would you have joined "decades" ago?

#BYUfantasyland

 

[green]

You can read into whatever you like and I'd expect nothing less of someone who obviously views the world through rose-colored glasses.

But it's a fact that if BYU would've been willing to make some concessions that they could've gone to a big conference decades ago.

I know that kills you. I know you feel that it slights your beloved Utes somehow. But in reality it doesn't. That is no slight on the Pac10/Utah or BYU. But you won't see that. You've got to put in your two cents on everything and make sure BYU looks as bad as possible and Utah looks as good as possible. No problem this is who you are.

This is what I read into it:

"But they never invited us to dinner. There was never an invitation."

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

#BYUfantasyland

 

[green]

Like I said, rose-colored glasses. Keep on hatin, Son. I love that it kills you anytime there is even a chance of BYU looking good and that you spend so much energy trying to make them look bad. That's sad and miserable but entertaining from my end.

Keep typing. Thanks in advance.

Um. Pot meet kettle.

 

[green]

p.s.Trout and Benson - Three non-BCS teams have won BCS games....and all three are in BCS conferences now. If you are jealous of Utah, win some big games. Easy fix. Baby steps though. Learn how to handle Utah State, then focus on bigger fish. Rome wasn't built in a day, you know.

 

[CONAN]

What conference is that? The PAC-12 has NEVER seriously looked at you, although you guys tried your best to join their conference in the 90's. The Big 12 looked at you, but Baylor forced you out. Which conference exactly would you have joined "decades" ago?

#BYUfantasyland

So we have two major conferences that have been interested in BYU in the past. That's my point. BYU has been negotiating with the big boys for years. Nothing every came of it but they were definitely interested. Sorry fellas.

 

[CONAN]

This is what I read into it:

"But they never invited us to dinner. There was never an invitation."

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

#BYUfantasyland

Well duh I'd expect nothing less from a Utah honk. According to you guys there was no national championship and no big conference ever wanted BYU. Talk about a fantasy land.

 

[green]

So we have two major conferences that have been interested in BYU in the past. That's my point. BYU has been negotiating with the big boys for years. Nothing every came of it but they were definitely interested. Sorry fellas.

There is NO proof that there was any interest beyond "oh that sounds nice" from either conference.

#BYUfantasyland

You take your negotiations, I'll take my membership in the PAC-12.

 

[green]

Well duh I'd expect nothing less from a Utah honk. According to you guys there was no national championship and no big conference ever wanted BYU. Talk about a fantasy land.

No, you won a NC in 1984. An incredibly weak one that required you having a 4th quarter comeback against a lousy Michigan team on their FOURTH string QB. Do you honestly think you would have stood a chance vs Washington that year?

Which Big conference wanted BYU again? Which one EVER extended an invitation to BYU?

 

[CONAN]

There is NO proof that there was any interest beyond "oh that sounds nice" from either conference.

#BYUfantasyland

You take your negotiations, I'll take my membership in the PAC-12.

Then we agree. Other conferences have been interested on some level with BYU for decades.

 

[CONAN]

No, you won a NC in 1984. An incredibly weak one that required you having a 4th quarter comeback against a lousy Michigan team on their FOURTH string QB. Do you honestly think you would have stood a chance vs Washington that year?

Sorry, 3rd placer. After finishing the 1984 season 13-0, BYU was ranked number one by the Associated Press, United Press International (coaches' poll), Sports Illustrated, CNN-USA Today, and the Football Writers of America. Why don't you write a letter of protest to those guys and maybe they'll change their minds.

Which Big conference wanted BYU again? Which one EVER extended an invitation to BYU?

BYU has been in discussions with the Big 12 and Pac for decades. We went over this. I've never mentioned invites. That's you honks jumping the gun as usual.

 

[gregbroncs]

So we have two major conferences that have been interested in BYU in the past. That's my point. BYU has been negotiating with the big boys for years. Nothing every came of it but they were definitely interested. Sorry fellas.

Nice back tracking. You stated they could have been in a bigger conference years ago. You were asked for proof. You produce an article that is anything but proof. An article that indicates that the conference you seem to think is interested has little to no interest.

So again. Do you have any actual proof?

Or will you just back pedal some more?