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Penn State?

I'm all for them cleaning house, and Penn State getting bowl bans for a while, hell, even a long *** time (also giving current players there the option to transfer). But to gut the football team would also to be gutting the economy of Happy Valley, and IMO that sucks. People who own businesses there didn't molest those kids.
 
Givem hell NCAA!

I would completely encourage and support the Death Penalty to the most corrupt and dirty program in the history of all sports.

What they did was gross, nasty, and needs to be punished to the fullestest mostest extent of the law. Make an example out of all of them.

From Joe Pa to the President, they were all chicken ****. They were so afraid of the bad pub and tried their darnest to keep this whole nasty *** affair hidden... Their actions led to the raping of 10+ more boys and soooo many lives scarred forever.

Penn St. needs to be cleansed.
They need to be made an example of.

Give them the death penalty. Kill their program for a few years.

Send a message. It don't matter whether you're Alabama or Idaho. Whether you're Nick Saban or Kyle Whittingham. The thing you hold most precious isn't your football program or your university's reputation. If you feel like protecting rapists for the sake of your program/university/legacy, then you will ultimately lose it all. No ifs, ands, or buts.

Kill it. Start over in a few years. Maybe in 3 years you can get new uniforms, new colors, new coaches, new players, and start from scratch.

And btw, take down that damn statue before some kids do. I hope someone soon takes a sledgehammer to Pa's statue. Or spray paint it. Write, "rapist protector."

What a disgrace.

Kill it like Mongo kills horses.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_RKPGS2vwM

What's hilarious is watching all the lame *** Penn St. morans defend their school/Joe Pa. A simple question needs to be asked... If their kid was being raped by Sandusky and the report was ignored by Joe Pa and hidden by the university would they be so quick to defend Joe Pa? Would they have been down with him waiting a weekend before reporting it? Would they have been down with the way the university handled things?

Would Joe Pa have waited a weekend to report it... And then merely told the next guy up, if it had been his kid being banged by Sandusky? Or do you think he would have gone immediately to the authorities and wouldn't have rested until Sandusky was behind bars?

It's a simple question. And we all know the answer to it...

Go to hell Penn St.
 
I'm all for them cleaning house, and Penn State getting bowl bans for a while, hell, even a long *** time (also giving current players there the option to transfer). But to gut the football team would also to be gutting the economy of Happy Valley, and IMO that sucks. People who own businesses there didn't molest those kids.

Coaches, ADs, and Presidents need to consider the lives of those business owners too when they hide and protect child rapists.

Just another reason why they SHOULDN'T have hidden and protected Sandusky.

Make an example out of Penn St. Or would you rather slap them on the wrist? The message being sent is that, "this isn't that big of a deal."
 
I've never understood how the NCAA will punish schools and players for stuff that former players and coaches have done.

This is like Mom saying you're grounded because your brother, who has moved out, came home after curfew. Sorry kid.
 
Why do people want to hurt an inanimate object?
You can't punish an organization.
You can punish the people in an organization, but do you want to hurt everyone regardless of their involvement?

Why not focus more on proactive action, that would prevent such things from happening in the future?
The coach is dead, punishing his memory does not accomplish anything.

BTW, Sandusky did his deeds under the cloak of at least two charities, (if not more.)
 
Why do people want to hurt an inanimate object?
You can't punish an organization.
You can punish the people in an organization, but do you want to hurt everyone regardless of their involvement?


Why not focus more on proactive action, that would prevent such things from happening in the future?
The coach is dead, punishing his memory does not accomplish anything.

BTW, Sandusky did his deeds under the cloak of at least two charities, (if not more.)

It's called sending a message. If you know about some shady/****ed up **** going on, do something about it because if you don't, it affects EVERYBODY.

I agree it isn't fair to the students/fans, but they only have their leaders to blame. Sometimes when you **** up badly, **** happens.
 
It's called sending a message. If you know about some shady/****ed up **** going on, do something about it because if you don't, it affects EVERYBODY.

I agree it isn't fair to the students/fans, but they only have their leaders to blame. Sometimes when you **** up badly, **** happens.

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It's called sending a message. If you know about some shady/****ed up **** going on, do something about it because if you don't, it affects EVERYBODY.

I agree it isn't fair to the students/fans, but they only have their leaders to blame. Sometimes when you **** up badly, **** happens.

Exactly. This acts as a deterrent for other schools and leadership.

You can't just let the school and football program walk free from this.

The system isn't perfect. But letting the school and program walk free would be worse than punishing them.

I don't think many of you understand the extent of this cover up.

Janitors, on campus police, coaches, ADs, Presidents, knew about this... And did nothing. Actually, they did do something. They hid it.
 
Why do people want to hurt an inanimate object?
You can't punish an organization.
You can punish the people in an organization, but do you want to hurt everyone regardless of their involvement?

Why not focus more on proactive action, that would prevent such things from happening in the future?
The coach is dead, punishing his memory does not accomplish anything.

BTW, Sandusky did his deeds under the cloak of at least two charities, (if not more.)

So what's your solution(s)?
 
Exactly. This acts as a deterrent for other schools and leadership.

You can't just let the school and football program walk free from this.

The system isn't perfect. But letting the school and program walk free would be worse than punishing them.

I don't think many of you understand the extent of this cover up.

Janitors, on campus police, coaches, ADs, Presidents, knew about this... And did nothing. Actually, they did do something. They hid it.

Yes because the deterrent of making teams miss bowl games has completely eradicated illegal recruiting tactics right?

Sandusky is in jail. JoePa's legacy is ruined. Hopefully the rest who were involved go down in flames too. Punishing future players doesn't change or make this go away.

So go after the guilty. You covered it up? Ruin their careers not people who had nothing to do with it.
 
I suppose, but
There might be other people elsewhere in positions of authority getting away with other bad things as we speak.
 
What's hilarious is watching all the lame *** Penn St. morans defend their school/Joe Pa. A simple question needs to be asked... If their kid was being raped by Sandusky and the report was ignored by Joe Pa and hidden by the university would they be so quick to defend Joe Pa? Would they have been down with him waiting a weekend before reporting it? Would they have been down with the way the university handled things?

Would Joe Pa have waited a weekend to report it... And then merely told the next guy up, if it had been his kid being banged by Sandusky? Or do you think he would have gone immediately to the authorities and wouldn't have rested until Sandusky was behind bars?

It's a simple question. And we all know the answer to it...

Go to hell Penn St.

Nevermind what I think about this whole situation, I just wanna point out how trite and cliché I find the idea of "your kid" morality. Not all of us are governed by base emotions and not all of us think differently just because something happened to someone close to us.
 
There were people defending Joe Pa in the old thread. I was just curious if there is anybody left to defend him.

I would not be opposed to the school losing all federal funding after this. I don't believe there is a punishment too harsh for what Penn state did. That includes shuting down the school forever.
right, because the students are completely to blame. Don't get me wrong I don't want to sound like I'm sticking up for those in charge and Of course Joe Pa. I assume he is answering for his roll in what happened from beyond the grave. Penn st definitely need to clean house, but to completely close the school is ridiculous. They shouldn't screw the students for others mistakes.
 
Yes because the deterrent of making teams miss bowl games has completely eradicated illegal recruiting tactics right?

Sandusky is in jail. JoePa's legacy is ruined. Hopefully the rest who were involved go down in flames too. Punishing future players doesn't change or make this go away.

So go after the guilty. You covered it up? Ruin their careers not people who had nothing to do with it.
That is why we are calling for the death penalty of their football program. Because missing a few bowl games is not enough of a deterrant for this offense. Those future players can just go play somewhere else. So they are not being punished. Part of the rest going down in flames is the institution and the football program that were involved in the coverup.

It may not make it go away. But if the punishment is severe enough (and the more I think about it the more I believe the football program should be permanently terminated) the more likely that you stop this from happening again. Which by turn protects the most amount of people in the long run.

Sandusky should be dead. Joe Pa's name should be stricken from NCAA record books and Penn state should lose their football program (at minimum for a while)
 
Why do people want to hurt an inanimate object?
You can't punish an organization.
You can punish the people in an organization, but do you want to hurt everyone regardless of their involvement?

Why not focus more on proactive action, that would prevent such things from happening in the future?
The coach is dead, punishing his memory does not accomplish anything.

BTW, Sandusky did his deeds under the cloak of at least two charities, (if not more.)
The best proactive solution is to punish the program caught, severely. Thereby sending the message that it will not be tolerated.

You are taking the side of a few student athletes and business that may be inconvienienced at the expense of having a chance to try and send the message about stopping this in the future. I'll take their inconvieniences if it saves the lives of kids in the future.
 
It's called sending a message. If you know about some shady/****ed up **** going on, do something about it because if you don't, it affects EVERYBODY.

I agree it isn't fair to the students/fans, but they only have their leaders to blame. Sometimes when you **** up badly, **** happens.
I really wish I could rep this post. But alas I'm out of rep.
 
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